I have always wondered about this...

asked 16 Dec '09, 06:08

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the flesh is flesh and the spirit is spirit. the flesh is temporary and the spirit is permanent.

(19 Apr '12, 10:49) white tiger

I am assuming that the concept of reincarnation is accepted by most folks here. If not, this could be quite a controversial answer :)

You are immortal - just not physically immortal - but because of the reincarnational aspect of your consciousness, you'll be back to enjoy life from different perspectives many times over.

That's because looking at physical life from one vantage point eventually loses the freshness of that vantage point. If you were able to keep the freshness of that vantage point eternally (and allow it fully), you wouldn't need to die...and so you wouldn't die.

Here is a better way of looking at life.

Rather than thinking in terms of one life, then dying. Then being reincarnated and living another life, then dying etc...think of it as one immortal life with multiple phases to it, some when you are physically-focused and some when you are not.


answered 16 Dec '09, 08:05

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Loved your answer!

(16 Dec '09, 15:16) LeeAnn 1

Thank you LeeAnn

(16 Dec '09, 18:53) Stingray

I second that, I love your answer!

(19 Apr '12, 13:59) Constantine
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You are immortal. Only your body dies. You don't die. You are not your body. You are spirit.

Don't let this statement frighten you. But in a way you die every night when you go to sleep, except you soul is connected to your body by a tread of life (called a golden thread).

You, pretty much, leave your body every night & return to it when you wake up. My grandmother, when close to hear death drifted in and out of consciousness many times & a few of these times all functions including the heart & the brain stopped working.

When she came out of it she described the experience exactly as having a dream.


answered 16 Dec '09, 08:20

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The Traveller

I see many of us feel the same way regarding our immortality. Thanks for sharing the light.

(19 Apr '12, 14:02) Constantine

We don't really die. Death is merely an ending of all vital functions in our physical body but our higher self or soul lives on. Just as up cannot exist without down, good without bad, left without right etc.etc., endings cannot exist without beginnings - death without birth. Even in the forest, the dead trees or rotten foliage go back to the earth and contribute to the birth of new plants. So instead of perceiving it as an ending, perceive it instead as a transition from one state to another. It is just a part of the cycle of Life.


answered 16 Dec '09, 13:02

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Yes, Michaela, eloquently stated.

(19 Apr '12, 14:03) Constantine

We are non-physical beings and extensions of a bigger non-physical conciousness. Coming to this planet in these physical bodies was just an experience that we wanted to have. But we all came here with the intention of going back, not to stay here.

Therefore, if we are all non-physical beings, then there is no death, just going back to who we really are, non-physical beings.


answered 16 Dec '09, 11:38

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I agree, our journey here was first a desire that transformed into an action and created life as we know it. Desire is an immortal emotion that we are molecularly bonded to. It is the vehicle of travel that we will take when we "Return."

(19 Apr '12, 12:08) Constantine

In this physical world, death is an integral part of the cycle of life. It is part of the natural order. Without death, nature would become unbalanced. If you think about it for a moment, you will realize this is true. How would it work if everything was immortal, if nothing ever died? What would everyone (and everything) eat? Would there be space for an infinite number of creatures?

I don't think I want to be immortal anyway. I waste enough time as it is. ;)


answered 16 Dec '09, 06:16

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lol, I as well waste enough time as it is Vesuvius. Better wasted then not at all.

(19 Apr '12, 12:10) Constantine

God didn't make us immortal because of a reason we cannot understand yet. Maybe its so that mankind would cherish life even when there is hard ship because every man knows there is an end.

I don't believe in life-after-death, but thats just my opinion.


answered 16 Dec '09, 21:51

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Who are "We" and who made "we" the authority of what humanity knows and not knows? One thing is for certain, we are opinionated.

(19 Apr '12, 14:28) Constantine

We have to die, because we have all sinned. The Bible teaches that the wages of sin is death, and none of us have come short of the wages of sin, so we have to die. God created man with the best of intentions to live and be happy, in the garden of Eden with him. He gave man everthing to make him happy, and to be fulfilled. He created a woman, for the man for his companion. The only thing he asked of the two of them was not to eat from a certain tree in the Garden. Satan came along, and tempted them to eat of the same tree, and they listened to Satan, and they disobeyed God. Of course God was very angry with them, and he drove them out of the Garden of Eden and eternal life.

So given that we are all the off springs of our first parents, and as the Bible teaches, the sins of the parents will fall upon the children, and their children etc. God condemmed Adam, and Eve because they sinned, and the wages of sin is death. Jesus the son of God died on the Cross to save us from sin, and hell; and on the third day he rose again from the dead, and he went up to sit on the right hand of his father God in Heaven. He will come again, to judge the living, and the dead, to give us a chance of eternal life.

When we are born into this world, and is given this life to live freely, we are also given a certain amount of time in this world to live this life; and when our time is up in this world, we are call back to sleep in death. But the soul, the spirit of truth within shall never die, only the physical body shall return to the dust from whence it came.


answered 17 Dec '09, 06:52

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Very good answer Vee.

(12 Feb '10, 11:33) flowingwater

The Bible is a masterful reference to our understanding. I think you did a great job in translating it.

(19 Apr '12, 14:33) Constantine

Yes, you are immortal and yes, when you die it's about changing the position of your assemblage point, of focus, of perception.

You DO live multiple lives but it's not exactly reincarnation as we know it. You see reincarnation suggests that you end One life and start another. When that concept is all well and good except linear time as a valid concept for us ceased existing some time ago. Time is an illusion and the only time is NOW. Which means that ALL lives, ALL realities, ALL universes co-exist NOW, in the ONlY place that exists.

So for millenniums people used to believe; "ok so if I'm immortal and I reincarnate I can just "kick-it-back in this life and wait for another.") Well the thing is that THIS you that is having the experience of life right NOW will not exist anymore.

We are the part and parcel of an oversoul, a bigger soul who has partitioned itself into smaller portions called sub-souls, which are us. Each sub-soul plays a specific role, a theme in the physical reality for the sake of the oversoul to gain experience from them All at once. That's why sometimes you can meet someone that you can feel an instant attraction, a longing, affection and so forth. It can simply mean that you met another sub-soul of your oversoul.

So why do we HAVE to die? We DON'T have to do ANYTHING! THe thing is we are so powerful that we control our birth and death and so forth. We do it with our oversoul to go at certain times and be born in certain circumstances to get the lessons that we are suppose to learn. When people die it's because they CHOOSE to die. THe only thing is they do it UNCONSCIOUSLY, which simply means they don't know they have the choice, but they do.

Most people aren't ready to accept that notion, but so what? Just by reading these words and trying to find your way in life, 99% of people in the world would say your crazy. They said the same thing about Copernicus. Well what's heresy yesterday, is tomorrows truth.

So don't worry if your going to die or not. Live your life like YOU ARE ALREADY DEAD! If you do that you will enjoy EVERY moment of life. You will fly and dance and sing with life it's tune. BE excited ALL THE TIME. Be love, light and laugh (the 3 Ls' :)


answered 17 Dec '09, 17:23

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Very interesting I haven't ever heard it quite put like that but it reminds me of the alemist who was looking to turn metal into gold and he did and found how to become immortal and they say he is still alive, I don't know. But I have read about a man that eat the right kinds of food and live to be 252 years old until he went to live with the king for 3 three weeks and died from eating the best of the kings food which was too rich for him and he died after three weeks of eating his food. Strange huh how your body works.

(12 Feb '10, 11:30) flowingwater

Why do we die?

Because it is the only way we can be prodded on to think in new ways. Older folk find change difficult... so God helps them lol New life, new challenges (oftentime with the same soul family whose faces have changed).

Why aren't we immortal...

we - bodies - because they tend to get a bit untidy as we age.. we - souls - we are almost immortal ? Second death ?? we - spirits are immortal.

Trinity of God Trinity of Man Sol-Om-On 's Seal


answered 09 Feb '10, 02:52

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Age is not the cause of tidiness. Order is perceptual, first taking place within the mind then translating into the physical. Defining tidiness by age group is demeaning and shows a lack of understanding. Prodding is an interesting viewpoint for God's actions. It almost takes away from free will.

(19 Apr '12, 11:59) Constantine

I wonder if we really need to die or have we as a whole decided it is the best way to let go because we don't know or are not ready in our spiritual growth to continue in a peaceful productive way. We are part of the God energy and I know this pisses people off but I think we are god. We have been told by every guru and jesus that we are powerful beyond measure. I truly beleive that when and I mean when not if ( I have great faith in us) we all come from a place of love and have let greed and fear go, we will have the choice of not going through the dying process. I beleive that when we let go of the monkey mind of reproduction, ego and get a grip we could live on any planet and or dimension without rapping it or abusing it But....ALL of us must agree. Mind blowingly big I know, considering how many souls are on this planet not to mention possible other planets. I think we have agreed at this time that dying is the best thing for us until we ALL move up on the spiritual ladder. We must come to an understanding of how precious All life is. WE use such a small part of our brain and it's amazing what we could do with it if it were in full throttle. There is a reason we can't. WE are not ready as a whole. WE are as weak as our weakest link. I truly beleive we have the power to keep on living. But until we all hold this and understand, we will keep going through this cycle. It's all about love folks, like it or not, it's that simple. My belief anyway. What do you think?


answered 18 May '10, 17:46

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I think you've fairly stated the truth. We are capable of so much more, infinitely even, and we do live beyond death. Whether we comprehend it or not is our reality.

(19 Apr '12, 11:40) Constantine

One reason we all die is, if we didn't we would run out of room on the planet. Another, is that's the way God planned it. Don't question it, accept it and death of you or your loved ones will be much easier to accept.


answered 16 Aug '10, 16:51

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Our existence would not depend on this planet if we were immortal. It is important to question all things as God intended us to. Interestingly enough, even our mortality is not confined to this planet. It is only confined to death.

(19 Apr '12, 11:34) Constantine

here is what Treb says of this.


hope it helps.

love n light (wisdom)



answered 19 Apr '12, 08:39

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TReb Bor yit-NE

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this answer is so great, i haven't heard it for so long

(28 Jun '12, 21:27) TReb Bor yit-NE

There are several ways to reason death, but the reason that is most apparent to me is. The universal process in which we all are a part of with out a doubt. The universe is energy and each soul is a subject in that energy field. Each soul must live and generate energy in order to keep the universe alive. We do this by generating feelings towards thoughts .Such is why knowledge is such a primary factor. Because it feeds our emotional intake which generates energy from with in us. In in order for us to generate the amount of energy required of us to form the energy to produce life we must gather great amounts of thought/energy. we do this by taking different classes. Both in each stage of life as well as each realm of existence . until we have fully reached a higher power being that still feeds the universe from the heavens. A soul must Constitute of several realms of reality to fully form the finished product which well reside and serve in the heavens of the universe, as prime factor in the energy field. If you look at the way life is structured for a human in seance of its educational growth pattern you can see that it mirrors its own universal pattern. For a soul of energy to fully progress to its full potential it must educate to such a degree that it is worthy of its potion. The universe both explains this to us as well as takes us threw it. Which is the universal process for life progressing forward. So death is a big part of the process that keeps life going. If we didn't die and progress it would all burn out. Ever realm of existence that we encounter is the equivalence of a class taking on earth as man just in a much much higher magnitude if you will. we collect knowledge which creates stronger energy with in us, and helps us sever the universal power behind life as we know it. Pretty cool system I would have to say, and the coolest thing is the fact that we are able to recognize this fact. How awesome is that ? You may try to visualize it like this. When your in collage taking courses and you finish one class you progress to the next leave a new class room. Taking with you only the knowledge you gained from it. Now magnify that experience to a universal scale image. How might that look to you ? To me it would look like life and death, from one life room to the next until I graduated . And when I die I have passed this lesson . How many lesson there are and how are they generated and such I'm not sure but am confident about this much of it so far ... V.R.


answered 28 Jun '12, 15:45

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Existence is immortal. Everything changes form. Death is one of the most dramatic occurrences of this change. Life is a recycling system. The life we eat must also experience this change. Can you picture what happens to the life we eat? We all experience immortality at death, which can be pleasurable or displeasurable, depending on the gravity of our negativity.


answered 19 Apr '12, 11:21

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the flesh is flesh and the spirit is spirit. it is in the bible.

Jesus said, “Have you found the beginning so that you are searching for the end? For the end will be in the same place as the beginning. Blessed is he who will rise up in the beginning, and he will know the end, and he will not taste death.”

Jesus said, “Blessed is he who exists from the beginning before he comes to be. If you are my students and listen to my words, these stones will become your servants. For you have five trees in Paradise, which do not move in summer or in winter, and their leaves do not fall down. Whoever knows them will not taste death.”

Jesus looked at some little ones taking milk. He said to his students, “These little ones taking milk are like those who go in to the kingdom.”

They said to him, “Then will we, as little ones, go into the kingdom?”

Jesus said to them, “When you make the two into one, and when you make the inside like the outside, and the outside like the inside, and the above like the below, and when you make the male and female into a unity, so that the male is not male and the female is not female; when you make some eyes in place of an eye, and a hand in place of a hand, and a foot in place of a foot, an image in place of an image, then you will go in to the kingdom.”

Jesus said, “Two will rest on a couch. One will die, one will live.”

Jesus said, “When you look upon your likeness you are happy. When, however, you look upon your images, which came to be from the beginning, which neither die, nor are they yet revealed, how much will you bear?”


1 Now there came a man of the Pharisees whose name was Nicodemus, a member of the council. 2 He came to Jesus at night and said to him, “Rabbi, we know that you are a teacher who has come from God. For no one could do the miraculous signs that you do unless God were with him.”

3 Jesus replied, “I tell you the solemn truth, unless a person is born from above, he cannot see the kingdom of God.”

4 Nicodemus said to him, “How can a man be born when he is old? He cannot enter his mother’s womb and be born a second time, can he?”

5 Jesus answered, “I tell you the solemn truth, unless a person is born of water and spirit, he cannot enter the kingdom of God. 6 What is born of the flesh is flesh, and what is born of the Spirit is spirit. 7 Do not be amazed that I said to you, ‘You must be born from above.’ 8 The wind blows wherever it wishes, and you hear the sound of it, but do not know where it comes from and where it is going. So it is with everyone who is born of the Spirit.”

9 Nicodemus replied, “How can these things be?”

10 Jesus answered, “Are you the teacher of Israel and yet you don’t understand these things? 11 I tell you the solemn truth, we speak about what we know and testify about what we have seen, but you people do not accept our testimony. 12 If I have told you people about earthly things and you don’t believe, how will you believe if I tell you about heavenly things? 13 No one has ascended into heaven except the one who descended from heaven—the Son of Man. 14 Just as Moses lifted up the serpent in the desert, so must the Son of Man be lifted up,




Blessed are the pure in heart, for they will see God.


"Blessed are the poor in spirit, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.

Blessed are they who mourn, for they shall be comforted.

Blessed are the meek, for they shall inherit the earth.

Blessed are they who hunger and thirst for righteousness, for they shall be satisfied.

Blessed are the merciful, for they shall obtain mercy.

Blessed are the pure of heart, for they shall see God.

Blessed are the peacemakers, for they shall be called children of God.

Blessed are they who are persecuted for the sake of righteousness, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven."

Gospel of St. Matthew 5:3-10


it was neccessary the world of flesh is a school a playground a place to come experience and grow in linear time. it change us from the eternal now where every thing is perfect in the presence of god and are brother and sister of light and give us a chance to be more like him to be able to stand next to him with a pure heart in the holy of holy in the presence of the holy father.


answered 28 Jun '12, 22:25

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