What do you think about this secretive organization?? Exist or fictional?? Evil or good??

asked 07 Feb '10, 06:43

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(07 Feb '10, 11:24) Stingray

Illuminati (plural of Latin illuminatus, "enlightened") is a name that refers to several groups, both historical and modern, and both real and fictitious.

Historically, it refers specifically to the Bavarian Illuminati, an Enlightenment-era secret society founded on May 1, 1776. In modern times it is also used to refer to a purported conspiratorial organization which acts as a shadowy "power behind the throne", allegedly controlling world affairs through present day governments and corporations, usually as a modern incarnation or continuation of the Bavarian Illuminati.

Writers such as Mark Dice, David Icke, Ryan Burke, Jüri Lina and Morgan Gricar, have argued that the Bavarian Illuminati survived, possibly to this day. Many of these theories propose that world events are being controlled and manipulated by a secret society calling itself the Illuminati. Conspiracy theorists have claimed that many notable people were or are members of the Illuminati, including Winston Churchill, the Bush family, Barack Obama, the Rothschild family, David Rockefeller and Zbigniew Brzezinski.

In addition to the shadowy and secret organization, several modern fraternal groups claim to be the "heirs" of the Bavarian Illuminati and have openly used the name "Illuminati" in founding their own rites. Some, such as the multiple groups that call themselves some variation on "The Illuminati Order" use the name directly in the name of their organization, while others, such as the Ordo Templi Orientis, use the name as a grade of initiation within their organization.

Many conspiracy theorists believe the Illuminati are the masterminds behind events that will lead to the establishment of a New World Order.



answered 07 Feb '10, 07:18

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edited 12 Feb '10, 21:44

Conspiration has been around since the birth of humanity. What may be discussed is how big and powerful they are, how much they have joint forces.

Conspiration means a group of people separating from the rest of society for a certain purpose. They ultimately do so because of fear. It may be a very concrete fear of being persecuted for their beliefs. It also may be cartels or syndicates forming in order to gain a better position to be able to impose control on others. Striving for control is always driven by the fear of uncertainty, the fear of losing things like power, status or wealth.

Now is there a conspiracy that is global? And how much is their impact on our daily lives? Would we live in a paradise without them? If so, why do we allow them to take it away from us?

The way I see it is the Illuminati being a manifestation of our collective shadow selves. Our shadow selves are the dark parts deep within us that we don't want to look at and hide from ourselves. Our collective shadow comes to a life of its own. When we look at events like JFK and 9/11, we learn that it is powerful enough to enable certain groups to plot very concise and perfidous plans and put them into execution without mercy.

Why do we allow such things to happen?

There is a saying that a people get the government they deserve. The less we want to take responsibility for our own lives and the more things we want to have regulated by the government, the more power we give away and the more we enable outside structurs to control our affairs. Now as the world grows together as one due to population increase and technological advancement, we are getting the one world government we deserve, i.e. the NWO.

We have been giving away our powers for a very long time. That's why indeed we may have allowed some complex, hidden structures to exuberantly grow.

So how deep does that rabbit hole go then?

The answer is: it simply doesn't matter. No matter if we give our power away to the local rabbit breeders club or to a transdimensional, intergalactic imperium of a reptilian shapeshifting master race that may have been in control for millions of years, the moment we take our power back, we are free.

Where do our shadow selves come from?

They are our fears. Most of them are rooted in very archaic fears back from the early days of mankind when we had to struggle every day for survival. That's why each and everyone of us, we do our little conspiracies every day. Those may be our more or less obvious quirks, but also things that have widely become custom and we don't question anymore. For instance, whenever we use a little piece of paper to buy some apples from the local merchant, we conspire with the banking system against him, relying on his belief that this piece of paper is actually worth something.

What can we do? How can we overcome being in control? How can we be free?

Our strongest dependency on something beyond our individual control indeed seems to be the money system. I'm sure overcoming this may indeed help a lot. I firmly believe we already could easily live without any money nowadays. Automation has reached a level where our basic needs are more than satisfied. 90% of jobs are merely required due to the complexity and bureaucracy created by money itself.

The answer is love. The role example should be mother earth who gives away everything for free. Everyone of us has an innate love and passion for something, be it

  • being in nature in the sun, being in touch with earth, farming, growing food
  • tinkering with mechanical things, repairing and "pimping" up cars
  • developing new ideas e.g. in engineering and technology for a cleaner world
  • communicating and bringing people together to make ideas come true
  • collecting and communicating knowledge and wisdom (wikipedia contributors)
  • cultivating justice, protecting others from mischief
  • working with computers, helping others automate the more boring aspects of their daily affairs
  • creating arts and/or performing
  • ...

Most of us know that when we do something we love to do, we don't ask for anything in return. This is what love is all about. So if we overcome traits like pointing fingers at others ("I do much more than that lazy ass over there"), and just start contributing to society with passion and the things we love to do anyway, we will find ourselves in an unbelievable abundance in an instance.


answered 07 Feb '10, 15:29

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edited 07 Feb '10, 15:40

I can live with that:) Love and Light

(07 Feb '10, 17:02) Roy

Excellent answer

(07 Feb '10, 17:43) Stingray

Very well said.

(07 Feb '10, 18:47) Pink Diamond

One of the best answers I've read on this site.

(07 Feb '10, 19:18) Michaela

I don't know what to say your ideas and points were so well orchestratic to prociseness. A very good answer you put your thought of words together very nicely and to the point you were trying to make. Quite Ingenius of you herzmeister der welten!

(13 Feb '10, 11:01) flowingwater
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Read the "Codex Magica" by Texe Marrs. This is virtually the bible on how to identify clues the inner members leave for each other & keep the rest of us "sheep" in the dark. Once you read this book you will never see television in the same way again. The public events featuring celebrities such as the Oscars, and the Grammies will take on a whole new experience

The most amazing thing is you will be surprised as to how you never noticed all this secrecy taking place in plane view of the public for so many years, (Centuries). And what's more, if you try to wake up others by sharing what you have learned from this book alone, the ridicule you will face will be a moment of awakening for you.

This is the awakening I got.

Our opinions are given to us.

When you examine the so called knowledge you have acquired from all the "authenticated" and "verified" sources, especially the mainstream media, you will find that you have been lied to again and again and again until you believe that the lie is the truth. Hitler perfected this technique. Every time you watch mainstream media this technique is forced on you.

So ask your self "How did I arrive at my Opinions?”

Examine everything you know.

For example, if your opinions about Obama came only from the mainstream media and books written by Obama himself, you are in for a surprise. If you want to get to the truth, read all the stuff that the media puts effort into dismissing. When they call somebody irrelevant, or a mad man, there is a reason for it.


answered 07 Feb '10, 07:28

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The Traveller

edited 07 Feb '10, 07:50

If you want to know the Illuminati or Skull and Bones watch the movie The Good Shepard, this portrays an accurate representation, also a good understanding of the birth of the CIA.


answered 08 Feb '10, 11:55

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Wade Casaldi

ahah exactly. i am just trying to get peoples views on the illumanti. unfortuantly many people do not even belive they EXIST hence "dominate the world". i am WELL aware of the illumanti and how they operate and personally do belive that they are the evil in this world today as we know it. i am just trying 2 "awakin" the others if you may lol. anywayz thnax for the response guys wanna see other peoples opinions regarding this topic.


answered 07 Feb '10, 07:46

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