I was reading a recent question on LOA and my tongue-in-cheek answer just to make people think and had this thought myself. That really we all have hidden fears we do not know we have, for example, a falling can of tomato juice if I saw it falling toward my toes yes you better believe I would fear it landing on my toe! Then I thought If I was falling from an airplane yes I would be afraid hitting the ground. I do not live anywhere near the ocean but if I were at the ocean and swimming and saw a shark yes I sure would be afraid of being eaten by the shark! The more hypothetical situations we can think of the more we find there a hidden fears we had no idea existed consciously.

When Danial was thrown to the Lions he had no fear, he knew God would protect him and thus had no fear of the lions at all. There was no attracting power of fear that said, "I am going to be eaten by the lions and there is nothing I can do about it!" No, he was cool, no fear, like, "Hey lions how are you, it's a nice day." He knew they would not bother him as that was his faith so his faith switched a "reality" that every time the Romans threw someone to the lions the lions ripped them to shreds and ate them to a non-event.

He had that child like trust and knowing that he was safe and fine, everything was going to be all right. This reminds me of the original movie "Frankenstein." In the movie Dr. Frankenstein's monster comes upon a little girl playing and she has no fear of him at all. She talks with him and even plays with him on the teeter-totter. Everyone else is terrified of him but this innocent little girl had no fear and thus she controlled the monster-he didn't control her.

It seems as we can rid our fears we can have incredible power over anything even to stop the usual from happening to the point of miracles! We step outside of the usual program of existence of what comes next. We actually change the program through indifference to the situation.

I was reading Florence Scovel Shinn's book The Secret Door to Success again and in it she was talking about the Power of Indifference. That when something just is and you have no fear or worry it ceases to have power over you. It loses its meaning to you as anything worthy of your time, sort of like a blip here and gone: "What was that? Oh I didn't notice."

The interesting thing is you may be falling out of an airplane with no parachute and you could be heading for death. These could be the facts, but if you are fearing you are going to die as you are falling, you are taking a situation that is happening and making yourself experience something bad, something terrifying! So now not only are you going to die you are as well terrified of this event! No amount of terror will make you feel any better and in fact will keep you from thinking of any possible ways out, or just trusting God will get you through it. You will be blocking any good possibilities and attracting the worst possibilities.

In a book I have called IS it talks of this indifference of everything, that everything just IS as it IS and so there is no attached feeling of fear or worry no expectation of any kind just pure experience in a non-judgmental way as an observer in awe and wonder of life as it IS.

Maybe we need not try to find out all our hidden fears and get rid of them. Maybe it is as simple as choosing at the time of the event choosing fear, worry or experience what is as it is. It is in this clear state of mind we can even find solutions for our highest good.

When I have what to many would be horrible nightmares. In my nightmares, my mind is not in fear. It is in a state of thinking, "what do I need to do to get through this?" I usually solve things and win. One time I lost because I couldn't think of a solution. I had my throat cut in my dream. Disappointed at that ending as I watched myself die, I stopped the dream, reversed the dream, and replayed the dream, then won! All of this was possible because I was not in fear. I was in a state of observation of what is and what I could do to change what I wanted changed.

Could living in this IS state of indifference and non-judgement of existence be like owning the key of the grid of existence? This would be similar to Jesus' descent into hell for three days and he has the keys to heaven and hell. In other words, he has the control. He is over everything; it bows to him.

It feels like it when I am in my dreaming state and solving nightmares for fun like, "Humm there are a thousand living dead coming toward me... What would be best to do to get out of this situation? I got it! Create an earthquake to swallow them up!"

I imagine this for Jesus as he awoke from his sleep in the storm, and all his followers were terrified they were all going to die. Then Jesus said, "Have you no faith!" And he stood and rebuked the storm. It was like saying, "Alright I'll handle this! Besides you are disturbing my sleep."

I remember a joke I heard on TV years ago that had a point. There was once a man dangling from a rope and above him was a tiger ready to eat him and below him a tiger ready to eat him. There were two mice eating away at the rope above him beyond his reach. Just as the rope snapped he reached out and grabbed a strawberry and ate it. He thought, "This is the best strawberry I have ever had in my life!"

He could have been terrified but instead chose to enjoy his last strawberry, there was nothing he could do so he chose to enjoy his last moment instead of experience terror in his last moment. This changed nothing but his last experience. We have that authority to pick what we wish to experience feeling and so he chose enjoyment.

So is indifference the ideal state of mind?

asked 30 Jan '12, 12:28

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Wade Casaldi

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(30 Jan '12, 15:09) white tiger

Wow White Tiger you did an excellent job on that video! Also it was a very good video and message. Great job! Thank you. :-)

(30 Jan '12, 16:53) Wade Casaldi

i did not make that video. but someone else in the world did after seing the white tiger.

(30 Jan '12, 17:22) white tiger

@White Tiger, Oh I thought it was your experience, your vision you told me about a while back.

(30 Jan '12, 17:57) Wade Casaldi

nope me it was in summer 2009 in a light place on a cloud like a mist world full of peace with 2 white tiger that came to rest by my side. her it was in late 2009 with 1 white tiger that show her about fear and that came to show her how to climb the mountain to reach the cloud.

(30 Jan '12, 19:39) white tiger
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I am barely in the second chapter of Eckhart Tolle's The Power Of Now. I find it very interresting how it puts into words and elaborates on ideas I have discovered myself. One of these is that our mind is a prison, and the bars are the past and the future. Fear can only live in the future, our projected future that never comes, because all there ever is is now. So it seems to me that pain is resistance to now as well as hurts from the past. Partly because we have been trained to escape the now because it is boring or lazy or painful. Like when people workout and watch tv, or read, or go to a happy place in their mind, or do something to distract them from the workout that they are doing. However, while I was working out while injured, trying to get better, I noticed that my results were better if I focused on the muscles I was using or stretching. But somewhere, somebody told me to distract myself while exercising.

Tolle also talks about emotions taking over us. I asked a question about emotions being spirits. He really explains what I was trying to say. So, if we rid ourselves of these thoughts of the past and projected future and their attached emotions that take posession of us, by being in the Now then what is left is a neutral or indiferent state or peace, or what Tolle calls Being. Just different words that mean the same thing. So far the book talks about some ideas in the Bible, but just uses more modern words.


answered 30 Jan '12, 14:53

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in a way yes. why judge you will be judge with the same mesure. example: wade you have talked about smoker people that drink or do drugs or go to nude dancer, and said it is not good for their life. it is their choice wade and maybe their is a reason why they do that. some one could smoke to deal with stress. another could drink or do drugs because he has some negative emotion in him or simply to party. the guy going to see nude dancer might go there to get something that is wife is not getting him. accept the fact for fact but do not judge. and why do we fear wade? is it not to tell us their is danger or something unknow or that we don't control. has for indifference toward other people i would say no: but to their choice you do not have to agree with them but you can try to understand them. experience and enjoy.


answered 30 Jan '12, 16:09

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Not indifference to people, there should always be compassion there. I mean to the situations we find in life.

(30 Jan '12, 16:58) Wade Casaldi

are not those situation found in life made and created by people. if you can help with those situation because you understand them from compassion do it. but do not do it from judgement. experience and enjoy.

(30 Jan '12, 17:27) white tiger

I was not judging, when I say don't do it, I am saying it like the Ten Commandments, it is for their own good. If they want to ruin their lives that is up to them. I am saying don't out of compassion, not judgement. :-)

(30 Jan '12, 18:00) Wade Casaldi

well wade if it is good for them how can you judge that it is not only because it was writen in a book? "This is the covenant I will make with the house of Israel after that time," declares the LORD. "I will put my law in their minds and write it on their hearts. I will be their God, and they will be my people.

(30 Jan '12, 19:54) white tiger

"In everything, therefore, treat people the same way you want them to treat you, for this is the Law and the Prophets." (Matthew 7:12)

" 'YOU SHALL LOVE THE LORD YOUR GOD WITH ALL YOUR HEART, AND WITH ALL YOUR SOUL, AND WITH ALL YOUR MIND.' "This is the great and foremost commandment. "The second is like it, 'YOU SHALL LOVE YOUR NEIGHBOR AS YOURSELF.' "On these two commandments depend the whole Law and the Prophets." (Matthew 22:36-40)

(30 Jan '12, 19:59) white tiger

"You have heard that it was said, 'YOU SHALL LOVE YOUR NEIGHBOR and hate your enemy.' "But I say to you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, so that you may be sons of your Father who is in heaven; for He causes His sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous. "For if you love those who love you, what reward do you have? Do not even the tax collectors do the same?

(30 Jan '12, 20:08) white tiger

"If you greet only your brothers, what more are you doing than others? Do not even the Gentiles do the same? "Therefore you are to be perfect, as your heavenly Father is perfect." (Matthew 5:43-48)

(30 Jan '12, 20:09) white tiger

"You have heard that the ancients were told, 'YOU SHALL NOT COMMIT MURDER' and 'Whoever commits murder shall be liable to the court.' "But I say to you that everyone who is angry with his brother shall be guilty before the court; and whoever says to his brother, 'You good-for-nothing,' shall be guilty before the supreme court; and whoever says, 'You fool,' shall be guilty enough to go into the fiery hell." (Matthew 5:21-22)

(30 Jan '12, 20:10) white tiger

"The scribes and the Pharisees have seated themselves in the chair of Moses; therefore all that they tell you, do and observe, but do not do according to their deeds; for they say things and do not do them." (Matthew 23:1-3) http://www.jesusfamilies.org/hot_topics/thelaw.htm

(30 Jan '12, 20:12) white tiger

"Do not judge, and you will not be judged. Do not condemn, and you will not be condemned. Forgive, and you will be forgiven. http://bible.cc/luke/6-37.htm

(30 Jan '12, 20:13) white tiger

@white tiger - be an allower ? :)

(31 Jan '12, 00:06) blubird two

allow what is good oppose only what is not good be wise to understand the difference. change what can be change for the greater good in balence and harmony. do not divide but unite.

(31 Jan '12, 01:09) white tiger
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