We think we will be happy if we could just have that car, or that house or that mate. But what if there was a way to be happy even if you never get that car or that house or a mate?

asked 18 Jun '12, 17:57

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Fairy Princess


No Fairy Princess, a car is obviously more important than happiness :P

(18 Jun '12, 20:56) Nikulas

Lamborghini surely is. =)

(19 Jun '12, 02:00) CalonLan

The car is the best place to enjoy our happiness ;)

(19 Jun '12, 05:20) r0la

@r0la, actually you're not far from the truth. Having car itself might not be fulfilling experience after you have obtained it. But riding a car sure can be. It's same with motorbikes. I'm not happy because I have one, but when I ride it I'm happy every single moment of that ride.

(19 Jun '12, 05:44) CalonLan

Wow - that is really bizarre because I was thinking just this morning of asking the question about why I find it easy to get into alignment when I drive my car even though I am uninterested in cars and don't much like driving!

(19 Jun '12, 06:48) English Rose

bizarre in a wow what a coincidence kind of way!

(19 Jun '12, 06:51) English Rose

@English rose, perhaps because you "are in the moment" when you drive. As I said in the other post, being in the moment provides you with a sensation of fulfillment or happiness. It's fast progress and evolution in a way. When you stop, stagnation takes over, and you start filling your thoughts and consequently your emotions with your past/future/other people's lives/etc. That is also why it is so powerful to chase after some dream you have. You will be focus on the present moment 24/7.

(19 Jun '12, 07:19) CalonLan

Thank you CalonLan - I have been listening to Abraham for years talk about the NOW moment and never really took it on board. I think I have had a lot of clarity just this week from you guys on this website about this. I feel more optimistic than I have in a while - thank you.

(19 Jun '12, 09:04) English Rose
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You don’t need a reason to be happy; you can simply decide to be happy for the sake of happiness.

Unless of course, you place conditions on being happy, such as I’ll be happy when...

Think from a higher perspective, in which you as an eternal spirit being, already know that life is all good and therefore, you know that anything that’s on your path through life must ultimately be all good too.

Consider this quote from Buddha:

"Your task is not to seek for love, but merely to seek and find all the barriers within yourself that you have built against it." Buddha - 563 BCE - 483 BCE

Now apply those words to happiness. Like love, happiness is a state of being; you don’t need to go looking for happiness because it’s a part of who you already are.

And here’s a wonderful truth to realize:

Your higher self you, brings an experience of life to you based upon the, in the moment, feedback that it receives from the physical you. Therefore, look around you and appreciate everything wanted that’s currently in your life, right now, and then any probable future must also contain more of what’s wanted, more good things.

Realize that any and all desires you’ve ever had, came forth from your own higher self. That’s why as a physical being you like what you like and dislike what you dislike. Your higher self is you and thus, it knows everything about you. It sees the probable futures that lie ahead of you and calls you to them.

Be happy now, feel good now – and then all good things must make their way into your experience ♥


answered 24 Jun '12, 23:44

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@Eddie - Amen!

(25 Jun '12, 04:29) Dollar Bill

Well said, Eddie! :)

(25 Jun '12, 12:05) LapisLazuli

That's what I'm talking about! :)

(25 Jun '12, 12:35) Fairy Princess
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Yes, that's the "secret" in my opinion. Be happy anyway, even if it never came.:)

The thrill you get from receiving your manifestation seems to disappear pretty quick... then you're suddenly wanting something new. Endless cycle.


answered 18 Jun '12, 18:33

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Everything is cause-effect continuum. If you were unconditionally happy, you create a trap of being unconditionally unhappy as well.

(19 Jun '12, 02:14) CalonLan

@CalonLan what? agreed about the cause-effect continuum, but happiness is not the cause of unhappiness (generally speaking, excepting jealousy, etc). Can you be a bit more specific? thx

(19 Jun '12, 05:46) Vtn

@Vtn, I didn't mean that happiness is reason for unhappiness. The idea is that if you do not have any reason to be happy, and just are happy unconditionally, you do not have any reason not to be unhappy either. The same thing with unconditional love, if you can love everything unconditionally, there is possibility of you you hating everything unconditionally too. Because both sides of any duality are always expanding evenly.

(19 Jun '12, 05:54) CalonLan

And if you limit your happiness to certain things or events, you also limit your unhappiness.

(19 Jun '12, 05:55) CalonLan

@CalonLan I think you have it backwards. If an object can make you happy, then the removal of the object can make you unhappy, that is conditional. Unconditional happiness doesn't need a reason, and so there is nothing to remove to reverse the happiness.

(19 Jun '12, 08:46) Fairy Princess

@Fairy Princess, I can't grasp the logic of that. Does something ever come out of nothing? ;) If so, how is that possible. If your happiness should be unconditional. Then your suffering would be unconditional too. If you are at the point of unconditional, how do you choose to be happy or to suffer, if there's no condition/reason on which you'd base that decision. Every choice has a reason. And so is every choice conditioned by something. Even choice to be happy.

(19 Jun '12, 09:10) CalonLan

Whether you make that reason for your happiness be one from within or without, is just another choice. And idea behind being happy from within, is that which is within us we have direct influence and control over. Thus making it easier for us to remain in the state of happiness.

(19 Jun '12, 09:13) CalonLan

According to your logic the fact that we can fall means that we can fly. Your logic is faulty. Happiness is a choice and is and is not true happiness if it is conditional.

(19 Jun '12, 09:14) Fairy Princess

If you put it other way around - the reason you can fly is the same reason you can also fall. It makes perfect sense. To be happy or to suffer is indeed a choice. But every choice has a reason it has been chosen for. If there is no motivation,inspiration,reason to choose that specific choice, how can that choice be ever made? Just because we can't at times consciously grasp why we made a certain choice and it appears to us as if it was "just because",doesn't mean that there's no condition to it.

(19 Jun '12, 09:20) CalonLan

@Fairy Princess, do you like to be happy? Do you like it because when you're happy, everything's brighter, easier and more gay in the world? Do you like it because of the butterflies in the belly it sometimes give? Do you like to be happy because when you are, you're more open and get to experience more? If you had no motivation to choose happiness, you would not choose it. I think when you answer any of these questions, or perhaps find your own reason....you know what I mean. :)

(19 Jun '12, 09:26) CalonLan

@CalonLan Choosing to be happy just to be happy is not a condition. I guess if you want a condition here is one, because one is alive is enough reason to be happy. No other reason need exist. If you want to put conditions on your happiness, that is your choice, but not a law.

(19 Jun '12, 09:31) Fairy Princess

@Fairy Princess, so what does being happy give you? Seems to me like a law, even if you making choice the law of cause and effect is underlying. Perhaps we can open it as a question to get more opinions on that, for fun =)

(19 Jun '12, 09:39) CalonLan

@CalonLan What does not being happy give you? It seems that if a person has a choice to be happy or not happy they would choose to be happy. And guess what? They do have a choice! Yes, ask it as a question. I am not sure exactly what the question is.

(19 Jun '12, 09:43) Fairy Princess

@Fairy Princess, how's that you are arguing with me here for almost an hour without being sure of what the question is... >:/

Just teasing. :)

(19 Jun '12, 09:47) CalonLan

@CalonLan I don't understand what you are saying at all, except that you disagree with me. ;)

(19 Jun '12, 10:12) Fairy Princess

@CanlonLan and @Fairy Princess! Get a room!

I will state my opinion, since I got attracted to this interplay. I think that CanlonLan feels we must experience the highs and the lows. That for joy to exist, there must also be pain. World of Duality. Worldly happiness must have conditions. If that makes you happy, then fine.

For me, I don't like roller-coasters! I am experiencing a quiet joy. An even harmonious joyful plain, at-oneness-joy. I like this.

(19 Jun '12, 12:22) Dollar Bill

I agree with you Calon, that boths ends expand evenly. I take the negative things as they come... they only expand the potential for me to experience happiness. :)

(19 Jun '12, 22:27) LapisLazuli

My thought is happiness is intrinsically conditional because of the implied value in the state of happiness. It is a choice, but a choice predicated by the expectation of reward, therefore conditional. Whether unhappiness is conditional or not is a moot point from this perspective, because it is only the potential for unhappiness that expands anyway, and in the case of unhappiness, there is no implied value, no choice with expectation of reward. In other words, they both have a valid point.

(22 Jun '12, 23:30) Grace
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Aha! A question that gets at a basic truth of life!!! Yay!

Truth is that happiness is ultimately NOT dependent on that house, car, mate, or anything outside yourself. Happiness comes from inside, from a kind of "state of living". If you expect to be happy, and have happy days, then you will for the most part. (Nobody's perfect here! But in general...)

What is that "state of living"? First of all, it is not expecting to get happiness from stuff outside ourselves! Happiness is a state of being that can be generated from within, and can be freed from being dependent on circumstances. Despite lack of money, bills galore, lack of my own home, etc., I am happy! I just am.

When one figures this out, one is on the way to true freedom.




answered 18 Jun '12, 18:36

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Go Jai! I agree!:)

(18 Jun '12, 18:41) LapisLazuli

TY!!! This is a great question!

(18 Jun '12, 19:02) Jaianniah

I agree Jai! Be happy anyway!

(18 Jun '12, 19:25) Fairy Princess

There's always a reason for your happiness. And it's because of this reason you can steer clear of being unhappy at times. So perhaps you ought to choose reasons which are in your "circle of influence". E.g. be happy because you do your best each single day and put 100% effort into living your way. But then again, if you flank it and recognize it consciously, you'll be unhappy. If you don't have specific reason to be happy, you don't have any reason not to be unhappy either.

(19 Jun '12, 02:18) CalonLan

@CalonLan true happiness comes from within, it is a choice we make every moment of every day. It is when we put conditions on it that we cause unhappiness.

(19 Jun '12, 08:47) Fairy Princess

If I try to "steer clear of being unhappy," I attract unhappiness. What I try to protect myself from, I attract. I live in an inclusion based universe. So the more I include Light and Joy, by seeking my Connection, the happier I am. I don't seek happiness. It is a byproduct. All manifestations are byproducts. ALL!

(19 Jun '12, 12:28) Dollar Bill
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A new car won't make you happy for long. Happiness comes from bonding with Source/God/Allah/Brahma/Buddha/Papa Legba/Abraham/Diana/Goddess/Gaia/etc. Manifestations are byproducts of this bonding.

Let's use God as a compendium of all the above :>) I like the Idea of calling all the above God. Simple and straightforward, but if you have a better Name, please use it. I am getting tired of all the caveats I have been adding when I say, "God."

God designed us to run on Him. He is our Fuel. Our Gasoline. You put something else in your engine and it may run a few feet and then conk out.

God = Joy

God = Happiness


answered 19 Jun '12, 12:10

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Dollar Bill

Yes, I would just say that God = Unconditional Joy and God = Unconditional Happiness and God = Unconditional Love. This connection with God is also what some people refer to as the vortex, where all our desires are waiting for us. It is also the Kingdom of Heaven where our treasure is stored. The Bible says to seek first the Kingdom of God and His righteousness and all these things will be added unto you. The World has it backwards, that is why they never fill the empty whole.

(19 Jun '12, 12:40) Fairy Princess

It is when we put conditions on our happiness that it is not God, but worldly. It is putting the cart before the horse, so to speak. The connection with God is the Living Water Jesus spoke of that would cause us to 'thirst no more.'

(19 Jun '12, 12:44) Fairy Princess

It works very well for me in a lot of areas. This is not just something nice to pay lip service. It is practical for living in this world.

(19 Jun '12, 17:15) Dollar Bill
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My answer to this question is: Which is more important, depends on the mood I'm in when you ask me. :)


answered 19 Jun '12, 23:03

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manifestations are only products of energy, so joy brings great manifestations, and fear brings only bad. so if u enjoy the love, then u can enjoy the things u bring to yourself, and have GREAT joy in both

love n light



answered 26 Jun '12, 21:52

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