What happens to us, human forms, after we die? Do we stay in eternity, aware as in life, or does something change?

asked 13 Nov '12, 16:41

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I believe that anything is possible upon death. You wanna fly across the ocean? So be it. You wanna be Elvis Presley? So be it. I think that because I believe upon death we release all of our resistance and perceived lack. Every thought creates a new possibility- I think that's what "expansion" is. It's creating new ideas, thinking new thoughts. So we come forth into physical bodies and take on limiting perceptions... giving ourselves the opportunity to create even more.

So what happens when you die... well, whatever you want to happen. Some will meet God and go to heaven. Some will visit old family members, maybe to help them or let them know they're near. Some will meet their past selves.. some will feel all love they felt denied of in their physical experience... etc, etc...

That might sound contradicting... it's saying that many truths exist, even ones that seem to cancel others out. But believing that there can only be one truth is a limiting perception to me. The non-physical can be hard to fully grasp from a limited viewpoint.

I hope that was clear... :)


answered 14 Nov '12, 13:01

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@LapisLazuli - I like this.

(14 Nov '12, 17:49) Dollar Bill

I like this idea. I once read a similar concept described in the fiction book "The Hundred Secret Senses" by Amy Tan, albeit in a rather humorous and light-hearted way. According to the book, where you go depends on what you love and what you believe. If you love Jesus, you go to Jesus's home. If you love Allah, you go to Allah's paradise. If you love sleep, you go sleep. And if you didn't know what to believe, you go to a big place like "Disneyland" with many places to go and try.

(15 Nov '12, 08:35) alfangor

I also agree with the idea that the afterlife is a place with no limitations. I liken this to your experience in your dreams, where you can never really die. If you die, you can just simply "respawn". Nothing is permanent. Everything is reversible.

(15 Nov '12, 08:43) alfangor

@alfangor - Kwan was always right, I believe this too. :) I loved that book so much, must have read it 10 times..... but not recently! Thanks for reminding me of this wonderful story, and just at the moment I had a need for a good, comfortable read. I will go dig out my copy right now. Wonderful synchronicity. :) thanks again!

(15 Nov '12, 09:04) Grace

@Grace I love that book as well. I love how books can sometimes carry so much hidden insight and messages. I found it funny how Kwan talked about such heavy matters as death and the afterlife so casually as if it were no big deal and as if it were all common sense. To me, the concept not only makes sense in a way, but also seems to appeal to everyone.

(15 Nov '12, 12:24) alfangor

@alfangor - Yes, and if people close to you haved passed away, it is such a happy and comfortable way to view things. It made me want so much to avoid being like "Libbyah" - missing all the fun and easy of life by keeping my eyes tightly shut, my "Hundred Secret Senses" blunted and ignored. I have to admit I'm not there yet. I still miss my dead so much, but I want to be like Kwan when I grow up. :) ...

(15 Nov '12, 21:42) Grace

... Btw, the way that book ended, I had always hoped for a sequel... did you? Ever hear any rumors? :)

(15 Nov '12, 21:42) Grace

Not that I know of, but Amy Tan frequently writes books with a lot of that paranormal element in her stories. So if you liked that book you might want to check out some of her other stuff. :)

(16 Nov '12, 05:50) alfangor
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We have a life review, which is both wonderful and gruesome at the same time. We reunite with loved ones and pets who have passed over. And then once we are orientated to the new world, we spend some time resting, renewing aqauaintances, meeting new souls, taking classes and rejeuvenating. After some period of time (each person is different and each circumstance different as well!) we choose the next incarnation with the help of our guide(s) and come back into this plane to learn new lessons. I base this on the words of many people who have "died" for a period of time, and on what I have learned in my studies. Best wishes!


answered 14 Nov '12, 09:08

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That is interresting, LeeAnn. How do our sould reunite with loved ones if they have gone on to a new life? Is there a version of us that is eternally in that place, but we only focus our awareness on them between lives?

(14 Nov '12, 10:38) Fairy Princess

That's possible, Fairy Princess, but since it is many, many years in-between incarnations, usually, it is very possible that our loved ones are still on the other side when we arrive there. Some will not be.

We reincarnate with many of the same people, (soul groups) in order to play things out and re-balance issues needed to round out our souls and I would imagine we wait for others there at times, also, until a group is ready to reincarnate with us.

(14 Nov '12, 11:41) LeeAnn 1

I believe that a higher part of us, IS always present,we are just an aspect of THAT.Love and Light.

(14 Nov '12, 12:15) Roy
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the flesh is flesh,and as it is writen in the bible the dust return to dust. By the sweat of your brow you will eat your food until you return to the ground, since from it you were taken; for dust you are and to dust you will return." http://bible.cc/genesis/3-19.htm Remember him--before the silver cord is severed, or the golden bowl is broken; before the pitcher is shattered at the spring, or the wheel broken at the well,and the dust returns to the ground it came from, and the spirit returns to God who gave it. http://bible.cc/ecclesiastes/12-7.htm as for the spirit it returns to God if there is no darkness in it. God is light, and in him is no darkness at all; nothing impure or unworthy or sinful can enter into his presence. you must be born again of water and spirit to enter the kingdom of god. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e7Qx9GyA1jw if not it stay in this world and there is still some hope for you. after all is it not writen: Blessed are the merciful, for they will be shown mercy. http://bible.cc/matthew/5-7.htm and if your light is darkness you know all ready where you go. so let there be light,be the light that you can be, experience and enjoy.


answered 13 Nov '12, 17:11

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white tiger

edited 13 Nov '12, 18:27

what some would say is of the myths
others that long ago it was known
the physical form is left behind
and to dust it does return

while our ethereal soul arises
and readies to digest its
most recent earth experiences
as it prepares to move on


answered 13 Nov '12, 21:24

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I believe that before [probably choosing to come to] this "step" we were entities in another society, probably multi or cross dimensional, and probably holding incredibly larger life spans if not immortals(if time is even relevant).

I believe that when we leave this step, we can either go back up to the previous step (because I can think of no lower steps after this one. Animals perhaps, as not necessarily a "lower" step, but maybe tangential), or stay here, or come back new here.

While the above could be applied to an 'angels & demons'-esque interpretation, like God and Angels and we were angels before and will be angels again; and I do believe that is possible, that isn't exactly what I feel. I lean more towards a slightly different (though metaphorically equal and quite possibly literally equal in the explanation of things, who knows-)

I think life is an experience engine designed to keep all of the players entertained for an indeterminable measurement of time. Since I am speaking from inside the perspective of a 'player' in the simulation, I can't make any assumptions pertaining to the rate of flow at other levels of the simulation.

I figure there is a "home" space where we go back to in between 'adventures' or experiences, or dreams, or lives, whatever terminology feels most fitting for you. To me it makes sense to think that time is MUCH more inconsequential at all other levels of life, except if you go "down" to the animal or maybe even insect level, where time would go by much slower but it would be much more consequential, as your life span would be more limited.

I believe the other levels would be much, much longer, like dreams and/or drug trips can be. Like when you have a 15 minute dream that feels like it lasted for hours. Or on certain substances (like DMT and Salvia) you will trip for 10-25 minutes but your experience on the drug will regularly be hours, and in rare circumstances some people will perceive either the absence of time or extremely long durations, weeks, months, or even "eternity" as a descriptor used to explain the sensation perceived by the mind of the user.


answered 14 Nov '12, 08:07

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I like this idea and have also thought that there may in fact be many different worlds or lives, not just the one we experience on Earth.

(15 Nov '12, 09:09) alfangor

I posted a link to a physicist a while ago talking about a 1 dimensional "hologram" (for lack of a better word) which underpins 3-dimensional reality.

From what I understood, this hologram could be described as being like a net, onto which the stitching of reality is sown. Or other people might call it "source".

It is 1 dimensional, because it doesn't recognise distances, and it doesn't recognise time.

I can't remember what the physicist said specifically, but paraphrasing: our brains/minds interact with the underlying holographic field in some way. Perhaps like a manifestation of information (I'm guessing), or as access points/interfaces between 3D and 1D.

A conclusion you could make (from the premise that our brains/minds/souls interact with a special uni-dimensional energy field) is that some essential part of us sinks back into the "hologram" after we die, to join the rest of the souls who have lived in some kind of "ether".

George Lucas might describe the hologram as "the Force". Maybe people live on in some way like Yoda, Obi Wan Kenobi, and Anakin Skywalker did. I hope you don't have to be a Jedi for this to happen.

I don't know if the science on the existence of the hologram is conclusive, or what conclusions could be drawn from such science, but from my experience, the revelation that there was something underlying all of reality which connected all of space and time was a confirmation of some unsettling experiences I had had. For the record, those unsettling experiences could quite reasonably be purely personal/subjective, and not occurring in external reality, as correlation does not imply causation.


answered 14 Nov '12, 04:48

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@SR7 your link does not work

(14 Nov '12, 06:10) ursixx

It works for me. The browser should download the file, rather than play it inside the browser. What happens for you?

(14 Nov '12, 06:12) SR7

@SR7 when I left click nothing. right click open new tab I get this but it is a blank page http://www.world-harmony.com/Data/DavidYurth/New-Scalar-Model-Improved-Sound-Full-Version-LoDef.mp4 . Using Chrome browser

(14 Nov '12, 06:20) ursixx

You've got the correct URL, and this URL is downloading for me now (on a new computer). Perhaps the URL is only being served to some geo areas/countries? Can you paste that URL into a different browser, like Internet Explorer, or Firefox?

(14 Nov '12, 06:22) SR7

@SR7 don't have FF on this pc and Explorer just loads the page / nothing happens

(14 Nov '12, 06:33) ursixx

Okay. Your browsers may be trying to play the media file. The file is very large, so it will take about 20 minutes to download before you will see it play. I suggest you use a tool to download it. Orbit Downloader is a good tool I use. Download it from here: http://www.orbitdownloader.com/download.htm and then install it. Once Orbit is installed, open the program, create a new download, and paste the URL above.

(14 Nov '12, 06:35) SR7
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each of us are very different. here is my favorite info on afterlife. Seth speaks experts...


then this...


love n light, rob


answered 14 Nov '12, 17:23

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@TReb Bor yit-NE, we recently switched off the IQ YouTube player since it was causing problems for too many people. So you no longer need to use tinyurl.com for timed YouTube links. Any YouTube link will now work as a normal link

(16 Nov '12, 07:29) Barry Allen ♦♦

@Barry Allen thank you brother.. lnl

(29 Nov '12, 07:59) TReb Bor yit-NE

D.E.A.T.H. -- Departing Earth And Trekking H‘om’E; OM the vibration of eternity where there is no ending, only the rich mystery of new beginnings.

Meaningful: Steve Jobs final words, were “Oh wow oh wow oh wow.” Mathematical: Socrates drank the hemlock, and after his student thought he was dead, he spoke, waking long enough to tell his students that the universe is the shape of a child’s soccer ball.

Maybe they are connected? The reunion of science and spirit; their separation only in our mind.

All manner of death and dying spawn emotional, mental, spatial and spiritual hurricanes, storms that engulf and devastate the lives of those left behind when someone they love dies or otherwise exits their life.

What about God, others ask… When this list of words appears, God usually comes to mind; Eternal, infinite, immutable, indivisible, self-existent, omniscient, pure, omnipotent, faithful, all sufficient, majestic, omnipresent, holy, divine, sovereign, triune, gracious, compassionate.

What if we thought about ‘the Divine’?

Change is change; and another word for change is Time. All of the words above apply to Time.

Either we learn to deal with it in healthy ways or we suffer the consequences. Simply put; we resolve our emotional issues and evolve or we die. While not all change is physical, if we fail to respond to it in an appropriate manner, it often leads to physical consequences. In the presence of trust, respect, honour and yes, love, even though physical death cleaves those who love, there is a sense of loss but no sense of separation, the emotional, mental and spiritual bond remaining in place for the lifetime of those who remain. Conversely, when trust shatters, a spiritual bond is broken and respect bleeds away, mental distress quickly leading to emotional ruin. The penalties are often physical break downs, words inflicting wounds as the shards of broken promises quickly severe what might have once been strong bonds.

It is time to bring our noble ideas down to earth; the greatest challenges humanity faces is not talking or thinking them to death. It is time for responsive positive action; Our values are what we are willing to live for; Life is for the living.

Squeeze the juice and pass the cup, there is enough for one and all!


answered 16 Nov '12, 06:39

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I belive alot of us might not even realize we are dead, beacause you will feel very much alive. when you realize you had died you might think of your body, and then you will be instantly infront of it. Then if you notice someone walking in that room allof a sudden you are right next to them. You start realizing that whatever you think of you make happen instantly. If you had kids and you think of them you will istantly be right there beside them. You will start to feel a sense of freedom and happiness once you start to realize you are incontroll of what happens. If you want more information about this there is a great book called Conversations with God. there are 3 of them and it is good to read all three but in book 3 it has a great deal of information about what happens after death. The book is written by Neale Donald Walsh, hope this helps


answered 16 Nov '12, 11:51

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Crystal Lee Ouellette

Energy can not be destroyed only created or transformed. Now we must think does this hold true for consciousness?

It seems have we to believe our holy books yes it is the same and so as consciousness changes from this body.

So if this consciousness transforms upon death, then where does it transform to?

We must think again of what we are told from those books of Heaven and Hell, when you hear of near death experiences people have had experiences that match those descriptions.


answered 14 Nov '12, 10:51

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this consciousness does not transform after death it is the same but more wide then the physical level right now in the physical most people are in conflict with other or them self and they are trap in that duality and darkness that is why the water(soul:mind and heart) and the light(spirit:mind and heart) are seperated. and are not whole. why do you think that you need to be born of water and spirit to enter the kingdom of God?

(16 Nov '12, 18:50) white tiger

it is similar to what naruto does while meditating in front of the water fall of truth.i gave you the link to one of my question where you can find a link to the episode in question. http://www.inwardquest.com/questions/42600/do-you-think-that-the-anime-called-naruto-shippuden-gives-some-truth-about-meditation

(16 Nov '12, 18:53) white tiger

only with understanding and truth that encompass all duality will you be able to make peace in your self and with other,for you the puzzle will be solved and your water will be clean. jesus did that for 40 days the spirit lead him it is writen in the bible. then after he was born of water and spirit,the 2 became one, and god said this is my beloved son. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w6eTbhHE0jM&feature=related

(16 Nov '12, 19:05) white tiger
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I have a similar type of view somewhat to this...due to information I got through a meditation where I met I guess my guardian...the one that is there when you pass on or before you pass on as well. One glimpse as there are as someone else stated different things can happen at death. I was shown what can happen for some - traumatic type death. The guardian can put the soul to sleep...and allow the soul to awaken few very short moments to understand what has been happening...for instance girl dies in that moment soul is connected or aligned now, guardian puts soul to sleep, soul reawakens in coffin no feelings but realises coffin ....guardian puts soul back to sleep...the soul knows the guardian and can be annoyed it's being put back to sleep...then soul reawakens...guardian does not put back to sleep but waits for soul to go with him to next realm. Soul has free will here...a soul can hang around for years (human) due to trying to remember something...for instance not knowing something that's on the tip of their tongue such as they have a family...when finally remember they may go back to family...and could have a devasting effect on them due to the fact years has actually gone by rather than still in one day. At this time a soul can feel anger and can then choose to go with guardian.

What I'm a bit confused about is reincarnation...from what guide showed me...only enlightened beings have the choice to come back to human form...enlightened beings were once human but have evolved which takes a long long long time to get to that state via the realms. Though with 2012 onwards things could be changing due to time speeding up.


answered 16 Nov '12, 17:52

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on the bit that you are confuse about. if you do not want to go down,and want to go up,but right now you are stuck in the middle,would you not want to reincarnate to lead a better life? would you not like to have that chance? i think you would hope to have that chance do you? as for the one that can go up if he chose to incarnate and come play in this field for what ever reason that he decide example:learn more and grow,or share with is brother or sister that have lost memory once incarnated-

(16 Nov '12, 21:33) white tiger

or help them on the path or for what ever reason the father has asked them and sent them,if they do what they came here to do,before they go back up,at least if they have add a good experience and enjoyed them self,is that not good enuff?

(16 Nov '12, 21:38) white tiger

I'm sorry I'm not sure if your talking about enlightened beings choosing to come back into a human form or a soul that no longer has a human body because person has just passed away...wanting to come back in to human form? I don't think many enlightened beings come back but some do...to help humanity rather than to better themselves etc rather they are waiting for us to reach a higher consciousness ....so to speak.

(17 Nov '12, 01:19) alsorts

ok to make you more sure the spirit is light(enlightened) water =soul: mind and heart. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e7Qx9GyA1jw Jesus said, "If your leaders say to you, 'Look, the (Father's) kingdom is in the sky,' then the birds of the sky will precede you. If they say to you, 'It is in the sea,' then the fish will precede you. Rather, the (Father's) kingdom is within you and it is outside you.

(18 Nov '12, 18:04) white tiger

When you know yourselves, then you will be known, and you will understand that you are children of the living Father. But if you do not know yourselves, then you live in poverty, and you are the poverty."

(18 Nov '12, 18:09) white tiger

Jesus said to them, "When you make the two into one, and when you make the inner like the outer and the outer like the inner, and the upper like the lower, and when you make male and female into a single one, so that the male will not be male nor the female be female, when you make eyes in place of an eye, a hand in place of a hand, a foot in place of a foot, an image in place of an image, then you will enter [the kingdom]."

(18 Nov '12, 18:09) white tiger

He said to them, "Anyone here with two ears had better listen! There is light within a person of light, and it shines on the whole world. If it does not shine, it is dark." Jesus said, "If they say to you, 'Where have you come from?' say to them, 'We have come from the light, from the place where the light came into being by itself, established [itself], and appeared in their image.'

(18 Nov '12, 18:12) white tiger

If they say to you, 'Is it you?' say, 'We are its children, and we are the chosen of the living Father.'

If they ask you, 'What is the evidence of your Father in you?' say to them, 'It is motion and rest.'"

Jesus said, "Look to the living one as long as you live, otherwise you might die and then try to see the living one, and you will be unable to see."

(18 Nov '12, 18:13) white tiger

Jesus said, "Images are visible to people, but the light within them is hidden in the image of the Father's light. He will be disclosed, but his image is hidden by his light." Jesus said, "Whoever drinks from my mouth will become like me; I myself shall become that person, and the hidden things will be revealed to him."

(18 Nov '12, 18:18) white tiger

Jesus said, "I took my stand in the midst of the world, and in flesh I appeared to them. I found them all drunk, and I did not find any of them thirsty. My soul ached for the children of humanity, because they are blind in their hearts and do not see, for they came into the world empty, and they also seek to depart from the world empty.

(18 Nov '12, 18:20) white tiger

Jesus said, "I have cast fire upon the world, and look, I'm guarding it until it blazes." They said to him, "Tell us who you are so that we may believe in you."

He said to them, "You examine the face of heaven and earth, but you have not come to know the one who is in your presence, and you do not know how to examine the present moment."


(18 Nov '12, 18:24) white tiger
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