Does getting drunk or high count for raising your frequency? I know a lot of celebrities do it, (seems like it works),and I can't afford a trip or a one night stand right now.

asked 18 Jan '13, 03:29

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edited 18 Jan '13, 06:29

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weed, alcohol, drugs, meditation..etc. They dim the mind, apart from other effects of their own. Meditation is maybe the only one which doesn't give you unbearable urge to smile or cry, or create lag in your movement and so on.

Effects of meditation last longer, for you gain them slower. Getting drunk happens relatively fast, and so does sobering up. But the result is same for all of them.

You'll turn into a child in wonderland and everything will be so much fun again, cuz nothing will matter.

(18 Jan '13, 05:39) CalonLan

@calonlan there is a difference between all of those things but if you did not experience them you cannot know it. weeds alcool drugs have only temporary effect on you.meditation you get to know your self in truth and solve your inner puzzle. and it as lasting effect that are all positive.

(18 Jan '13, 06:04) white tiger

Meditation has been linked to a variety of health benefits. A study of college students by Oman et al. (2008) found that meditation may produce physiological benefits by changing neurological processes. This finding was supported by an expert panel at the National Institutes of Health. The practice of meditation has also been linked with various favourable outcomes that include:

(18 Jan '13, 06:09) white tiger

“effective functioning, including academic performance, concentration, perceptual sensitivity, reaction time, memory, self control, empathy, and self esteem.”(Oman et al., 2008, pg. 570) In their evaluation of the effects of two meditation-based programs they were able to conclude that meditating had stress reducing effects and cogitation, and also increased forgiveness.

(18 Jan '13, 06:09) white tiger

Recent investigations of mediation have linked it to increased intelligence through physical growth of the brain. Researchers at Harvard, Yale, and MIT conducted brain scans that reveal an increased thickness in the parts of the brain that deal with attention and sensory input processing. Using magnetic resonance imaging, they visualized variations in the thickness of the cerebral cortex of experienced Buddhist Insight meditation practitioners.

(18 Jan '13, 06:14) white tiger

The data show that regular practice of meditation is associated with increased thickness in a subset of cortical regions related to somatosensory, auditory, visual and interoceptive processing. Further, regular meditation practice may slow age-related thinning of the frontal cortex, leading to longer lasting executive functioning.

(18 Jan '13, 06:14) white tiger The dead are not alive, and the living will not die. "Whoever has come to understand the world has found (only) a corpse, and whoever has found a corpse is superior to the world." "Two will rest on a bed: the one will die, and the other will live." There is light within a man of light, and he lights up the whole world. If he does not shine, he is darkness."God is light; in him there is no darkness at all.

(18 Jan '13, 06:34) white tiger

@white tiger, I didn't say drugs, alcohol or weed are good for body. Just that they have the same result as meditation. It's a different mean, different path, to the same place. And I know there is a difference between walking through park, or a mine field. Still I walk through the mine field myself sometimes. Perhaps out of boredom, or to avoid routine. :)

(18 Jan '13, 06:43) CalonLan

@calonlan how can alcool and drug have the same result as meditation? since alcool and drugs is only a temporary effect on you that does not put you in truth about your self.alcool play with your inhibition and with your feeling bring it more to the surface, so you will feel more good or more bad,depending on what you experience at the moment. as for drugs they also each have different effect that are only temporary and play with your perception.

(18 Jan '13, 07:14) white tiger

@white tiger, and when these feelings are brought to their max, you might be able to see absurdity of them and see past them. It's when you senses run on their max, you can see the imprisonment they hold you in. And in the end, once you know the lie and the truth, you can live in a lie without suffering for you'll always live in truth as well.

Alcoholism or drugs is only a problem if used as a solution.

(18 Jan '13, 08:04) CalonLan

@calonlan the only imprisonment,is the darkness (ego) that is the only thing that hold you anny where.the truth will set you free,once this is done nothing hold you anny where but your own choice.the wind blow where ever it wish you hear the sound it makes but you do not know where it comes from or where it is for alcool or drugs,if you always have the choice to take or not take then it is not a problem for becomes a problem when you do not have the choice anny more.

(18 Jan '13, 08:17) white tiger

the alcoholic as not the choice anny more to stop drinking and it is the problem. the people that judge someone that take a beer as alcoholic even if he is not are making that choice out of judgement and it becomes a problem. as long as you have the choice it is not a problem.After all, what goes into your mouth will not defile you; rather, it's what comes out of your mouth that will defile you."

so make wise choice.

(18 Jan '13, 08:37) white tiger

@Victtoria- on the subject of alcohol and getting high, i couldn't resist posting this quote by Hunter S. Thomson "I hate to advocate drugs, alcohol, violence or insanity to anyone, but they've always worked for me"

(18 Jan '13, 13:29) blubird two

@blu lol! which reminded me of the Henny Youngman's quote. "When I read about the evils of drinking, I gave up reading." Then I went to Google & found a few more.This is for your bud Cal,"I don't do drugs. I am drugs."~Salvador Dali. For dear, dear wt who seems to obsesse about sin, "When we drink, we get drunk. When we get drunk, we fall asleep. When we fall asleep, we commit no sin. When we commit no sin, we go to heaven. So, let's all get drunk and go to heaven!" Brian O'Rourke Sweet Dreams

(19 Jan '13, 00:50) ele

@ele- love it :D

(19 Jan '13, 00:58) blubird two

@blubird two @ele

Haha -- amazing

(19 Jan '13, 01:09) Victtoria

@ele it seams that you did not read my comment.or if you have read it you did not understand it. we see sin differently. like jesus said you judge according to human standard. i see sin as when you do something bad to you or someone else from your own inner have free will to drink or do what ever you want and are responsible of it.what you put in your mouth will not defile you ,what comes out of your mouth will defile you.

(19 Jan '13, 01:12) white tiger

@white tiger Where is your sense of humor? Perhaps you will like this one better. A private joke between you & me. "When I heated my home with oil, I used an average of 800 gallons a year. I have found that I can keep comfortably warm for an entire winter with slightly over half that quantity of beer." ~ Dave Barry (no furnace yet & I really don't need one as long as the laughs keep coming)

(19 Jan '13, 01:19) ele

@ele ha(!) cute

(19 Jan '13, 01:32) Victtoria

it may be that the altered state when initiated from the outside instead of from the inside is less pure. so do we let ourselves be feed off of as we feed our separation of body and mind or do we truly find it from self-consciousness

(21 Jan '13, 16:29) fred
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I think for each individual the answer will be different depending on their reason for partaking. If one can say honestly that they are indulging for the sheer enjoyment and there is no addiction or attachment involved then it may very well help in an overall good feeling. However, when it is used for escaping or avoiding their current reality then the good feeling will be fleeting, at best, and is usually followed by a period of lower vibration. The key as always is to be honest with oneself and unveil those self delusions...many addicts and alcoholics are not aware that they have a problem

Even a lot of those celebrities you refer to indulge, as a coping mechanism, to deal with the smoke and mirror reality they have created. Quite often no-one knows what goes on behind closed doors and we certainly don't know what goes on behind closed minds.

If you are considering getting drunk or high for anything other than a moment of enjoyment I have a feeling that you will be disappointed - the transient high may just set you on a road constantly seeking a temporary fix to raising your frequency. If you want to raise your frequency in a more lasting way I'd suggest meditation and a daily appreciation of life. And if you find what makes you laugh incorporate that into your daily life as much as possible:)


answered 18 Jan '13, 11:51

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@Michaela I agree with your answer. There is nothing wrong in drinking if one does it only for a moment of enjoyment.

(18 Jan '13, 17:00) releaser99

@Michaela Gosh I'm glad I stopped by for a 'reality' check. For me, nothing restores harmony like laughter & laughter is the best way I've found to get in the 'vortex' & stay there. Great answer BTW.

(19 Jan '13, 00:45) ele

very good answer @michaela many people lack awareness that is the problem.

(19 Jan '13, 01:15) white tiger
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Nothing, nothing, nothing, NO THING has any built-in meaning, other than the meaning you give to it. This applies to EVERYTHING. Therefore, if you FEEL that getting drunk or high raises your vibe, then it will.


answered 18 Jan '13, 14:42

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@figure8shape Simple summary of how to look at any subject first before activating the emotional response of what's right and what's wrong. Thank you.

(19 Jan '13, 01:17) Cory

Yes, it must do.

If you use positive thinking or focus blocks to raise your thoughts to a better feeling place then alcohol would seem a perfect way to do the same thing.

Now i know the good feeling high wont last forever, but then neither will any good feeling thought just go on forever. If it did we would all walk around in a constant Nirvana type state.

Alcohol has done more to raise my vibrational state than any factor ive experienced. Now i know its meant to be addictive, bad for you, marriage wrecking and so on.

But its not been that for me.Ive always firmly believed that Alcohol is a blessing. Its helped me tremendously in my life. I wouldnt be without it.

Now is it that way for everyone? I dont know. Im only aware of my own reality.



answered 18 Jan '13, 08:50

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Monty Riviera

everything as been put in this world for you to use and experience. everything can be good or bad depending how you use it with your free will, going in to extremes will always bring problems.when there is balence there is harmony. when there is imbalence there is disharmony. when you solve your own duality in truth there is no more disharmony in you.many judge after the flesh or with human discernement. but they are much more then that.once they realize that they will stop casting stone.

(18 Jan '13, 10:18) white tiger

I understood that one white tiger, nice answer and no mention of the narrow and broad gates. I dont understand all your answers but this ones great. Many thanks.

(18 Jan '13, 11:12) Monty Riviera

Excellent. Argument became very three dimensional. Thanks everyone.

I have abuse all sorts of stuff and I know how that can be a host for all sort of disappoint but I was asking for just small recreational. My brain is naturally per disposed for extreme depression which causes all kinds of bodily pain eventually if no real happiness occurs. Had it since I was a child and only through socializing and recreation use did I ever come out of my shell.

Since I've been sober and mediating I have found how mind was not capable of the depth it is now, however, at the same time I have totally reach a blah plateau and become socially alienated. Which for me- I will never find any happiness, especially seeing how in the past recreational use has allowed me to find natural acting aspect of the LOA before ever even reading about it. I naturally adopted some ideas through experience. I think moderation is key, because the lows can become worst than the highs, also not doing anything as habit will allow new better experience in my life.


answered 18 Jan '13, 23:13

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@Victtoria - actually was going to answer this question. You are right, everything in moderation, even IQ can be an addiction.

(19 Jan '13, 01:22) ele

It is my understanding that just because you are drunk or under the effect of some drug does not mean you are having a good experience. People speak of "having a bad trip" quite often. Pot can "make you" paranoid. Drunks often become aggressive, abusive and complain of how miserable their life is. So I imagine the question to ask is, do I raise my frequency when I get drunk or use this drug?


answered 18 Jan '13, 23:22

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@flowsurfer "do I raise my frequency when I get drunk or use this drug?" good question to ask oneself.

(19 Jan '13, 01:23) ele

All depends on intent. I have used weed to get into a state where my vibration was higher, where I could easily get in touch with my subconscious and release energy blocks. It's a bit tricky though, because drugs do sometimes diminish your focus, and they are hard to control. I still like the idea of using marijuana as a spiritual tool, but in moderation, and approached with respect. Other times, it's just nice to get high and veg out, being totally self-indulgent and hedonistic. Because I feel good about doing so, that helps my overall vibration too, as long as I don't do it every day and neglect my other responsibilities.

As for alcohol, I have had many a good night out with friends, getting drunk, and waking up the next day feeling great. I've had more experiences that were the opposite though.

As other people have said, it really is different for everyone. We can't tell you whether getting drunk or high will raise your vibration or not. The best thing you can do is really examine why you want to get high or drink. For me, doing it to escape usually leads to a bad time, but doing it because it truly feels right has led to some amazing times.

Be safe :)


answered 19 Jan '13, 10:01

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edited 19 Jan '13, 10:02

David Icke used Ayahuasca in Brazil, and writes of the experience in "Tales From The Time Loop" here


answered 20 Jan '13, 11:19

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Depends. I have known this idea very well. I once had issues with this. If you are able to use it as a great time/ enhancer of experience, such as mushrooms used to do for me, then yes. BUT the problem I see with it is that I know the possibility of becoming dependent on it. If you begin to enjoy the experience more than you do your daily life, it can consume you and disconnect you form your soul worse than anything else. I know from experience when I let the drugs overcome me it made me disconnect worse than any other point in my life. What I have found now is that all these experiences you have with the drugs, you can have without them. They are inside you. You can not have them with the drugs if they are not already a part of your existence. So what I am saying is this. Why damage your body for something you can achieve in a meditative state anyway? Listen to Treb explain a bit better. Hope this helps.

love n light



answered 20 Jan '13, 11:42

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@TReb Bor yit-NE Thanks for sharing rob

(20 Jan '13, 12:45) ursixx

You are welcome brother.

(23 Feb '13, 13:17) TReb Bor yit-NE

@TReb Bor yit-NE - your presence feels good :)

(23 Feb '13, 13:23) ru bis
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From the book 30 Years Among The Dead. It has been found out to lower the vibrations so much so that on loss of consciousness the person becomes a host to other souls that may not be so nice. These souls just want more substance to abuse and maybe a fight or two, also sex with who ever they can find willing. This is why when someone gets told what they did, they have no memory of it. "Dude you was so hammered last night! You got into a fight with that guy, then left with that biker girl only to get beat up by that gang then to top it off thrown in jail for indecent exposure! Wow you know how to party hard!", "Ha what? I don't remember any of that! Why do I have these bandages on my head and arms, and who's cloths am I wearing?"

I'd never want to end up like this, no drugs or drinks for me ever.

I'll always remember that commercial for pot. The kid smokes this joint and goes insane! He then pours gasoline all over his own car and lights it on fire while laughing hysterically about it! That was I believe an 80's just say no commercial.


answered 18 Jan '13, 11:58

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Dear, dear Wade, you can't believe everything you see on tv. (Must have been regional)

"God made pot. Man made beer. Who do you trust?" ~ Graffiti

(19 Jan '13, 00:42) ele

@Wade Casaldi "I'll always remember that commercial for pot. The kid smokes this joint and goes insane! He then pours gasoline all over his own car and lights it on fire while laughing hysterically about it! That was I believe an 80's just say no commercial."

They call commercials like that Propaganda. I smoked my fair share of weed in my late teen and early 20's and the horrible things that happened to me were as follows...

(19 Jan '13, 01:06) Cory

@Wade Casaldi ...bad munchies, sometimes sleepy, and horrible horrible fits of happiness and laughter. Also, I don't see the millions of people around the world who use medical cannabis to help relieve difficult illnesses going nut and pouring gasoline on things. Everyone reacts differently to different things. It's all a matter of personal preference for what works for you as an individual. As @ele stated so well, you can't believe everything you see on tv, but it still is your choice to do so

(19 Jan '13, 01:11) Cory
(19 Jan '13, 01:19) white tiger
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