I had an epiphany and I just want to throw this by some of you in the community.Recently I have been trying to find the right set of mantras or daily thoughts to govern my being.

I then came to the conclusion this morning after meditating (the night before) with 'Silent' thought and simple pictures painted in my head that for someone with a busy mind like myself when I do no think (as in try to be purposeful with my thought I seem to be happier.

Could this be because I have spent the last two years with daily purposeful thought? (repeating: I am harmonious and whole, I am loving etc.) I ask you because I do recall the quote from Bruce lee which states “If you spend too much time thinking about a thing, you’ll never get it done.” and "Like everyone else you want to learn the way to win. But never to accept the way to lose.

To accept defeat — to learn to die — is to be liberated from it. Once you accept, you are free to flow and to harmonize. Fluidity is the way to an empty mind. You must free your ambitious mind and learn the art of dying."

I kind of look at this as the art of thinking without thinking ...I have planted the seeds now I am t leave it undisturbed with empty harmonious thoughts.Is this defined somewhere or what is the communities take on this?

kind humble regards

asked 22 Jan '13, 15:37

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edited 22 Jan '13, 16:06

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@PlatosCave: are you meaning thinking without judging, analyzing thoughts, 'thinking without thinking'??

(24 Jan '13, 12:27) r0la
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To reach a mind with no mind one must be like still water and solve, find the answer to, all is duality. One does not become empty but more full. Since there is no more duality and chaos within. To give you a picture take a box with a puzzle put the puzzle on the table spread the pieces so that they are not over each other and that you can look at them does it take a lot of place? Do the puzzle, when it is finished does it takes less place? Do you still have to wonder where the pieces go or how to relate to each other? Now you have an example on the outside, well, it is the same on the inside.

Since you are born in this world how many puzzles do you have put in you? How many are not solved? How many did you ignore or suppress?

Also there is more then one level in you. Most are under water right now, they stick to the outside(wide gate of destruction, the outer world) and do not know the inside(the inner world), the narrow gate.

Some are on the surface of the water, they have solved the chaos within themselves and solved the surface puzzle and are in balance between the inside and the outside.

Some are starting to see the light and solving deeper puzzles, of how thought and emotion relate to each other, but they do not yet realize that the light is within themselves as spirit made in the image of God.

When all puzzles are solved, then the water and the light become one, you are at the mind with no mind, your awareness, focus and concentration are boosted, you feel the light radiating from inside of you to the outside.

Then comes the next level, without fear you disconnect from the flesh go out of the flesh, into the sky and you see the light appearing out of a vortex you enter that vortex that leads to the kingdom of light. (The wind blows wherever it pleases, you hear the sound it makes but you do not know where it comes from nor where it is going, such it is for everyone born of water and spirit. The one that comes from above is above all)

Blessed are the pure of heart they will see God.

So let there be light, Be the light that you can be, experience and enjoy.


answered 22 Jan '13, 19:13

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edited 26 Jan '13, 01:16

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white tiger, if one is born of the earth under the water sign and goes where the wind takes him yet without his leaving his body. who is he, for each night he dusts what the wind may have left on his soul

(22 Jan '13, 19:36) fred

all can achive it fred. as i said before mankind is still very young like a small seed.mankind is at the beguinning of the journey.that is what jesus was teaching.he gave all the key.yet people made a religion out of it,thinking that he came to die to save the world of sin(darkness/ego).they never understood that the darkness is still there,they killed him out of their own darkness and that it is for them to become the light that they can be.

(22 Jan '13, 19:46) white tiger

@fred Think of it this way if the main reason that he(jesus) would have come was to die so that all the sin where erased on the earth and that every one just need to believe,and can stay in their sin.then he would not have add to help anny one and teach anny one.If the Father were to desire a human sacrifice, he would become vainglorious.Did not jesus said to them:I told you that you would die in your sins; if you do not believe that I am [the one I claim to be], you will indeed die in your

(24 Jan '13, 08:53) white tiger

sins." But he continued, "You are from below; I am from above. You are of this world; I am not of this world.the truth will set you free. the flesh is flesh but the spirit is spirit. But if from there you seek the LORD your God, you will find him if you look for him with all your heart and with all your soul.When you are in distress and all these things have happened to you, then in later days you will return to the LORD your God and obey him.

(24 Jan '13, 08:56) white tiger

As for your question you are born of the earth as flesh,you can be born again of the water you are the soul you are the light(like the wind),so how can the wind leave dust on your soul,since the dust is from the earth and will return to the earth?the flesh is flesh and the spirit is spirit.

(24 Jan '13, 09:13) white tiger

you allready know that the dust return to the dust.(By the sweat of your brow you will eat your food until you return to the ground, since from it you were taken; for dust you are and to dust you will return.")but the light return to the light. (The true light that gives light to every man was coming into the world.)

(24 Jan '13, 09:19) white tiger
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The Samurai and the American Indians had this philosophy that before battle they would think, "Today is a good day to die." They both looked at the fact that they may die and accepted it. In other words they looked death squarely in the eyes and as it says in the Bible "Oh death where is your sting?" Once they faced the worst and didn't need to fear it because it was not unknown but faced as a real possibility, it lost its grip in fear! They could fight now fearlessly because they had met death before hand. Death was not a worry, so that thought never entered the picture while fighting. Their minds could be in the moment fighting without being clouded by fear.

Thinking without thinking is different, you take in as much data as you can logically, then give it over to your right brain to find the answer while you do something else or sleep.


answered 23 Jan '13, 01:56

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edited 24 Jan '13, 09:23

@Wade Casildi Very good analogy.One went astray from the left hand to the right hand and the 99 other followed to the right hand.giving 100.you also could meditate be aware and learn from it.

(24 Jan '13, 09:31) white tiger

I think I can share a slightly different perspective on this particular interest. Especially regarding "thinking without thought" and the concept of dying with reference to that exact activity.

Over the ages, different and un-related seekers have encountered a certain understanding about consciousness. That understanding is that our consciousness is a foreign installation similar to a computer program, which was "installed" upon the existing humanoid vessel (that is commonly encountered throughout the galaxies).

And the difference here upon the earth (as opposed to existing in another star system), is that we are forced to take all our intuition and run it through a slow process of authentication called "thinking" in order to validate the potential realization of that "event" within the existing matrix of programmed potential reality.

However, a dual unfolding of potential reality seems to be taking place.

It seems that if we can train our consciousness to NOT push our intuition into a louder and slower dimension called "thinking", then the power within that potential intuition stays within our ability to control through our inner connection to the creator.

But if we push that intuition into the louder dimension called "thought" our intent is not only now entrapped within the potential of the programmed reality, but our intent is also known to those that do not want us to be independent of the programmed reality.

In other words, we are "watched" through the mechanism of thinking.

Our habitual "thinking" is what allows our potential to be limited to what is beneficial to the programmed reality, because by the activity of "thinking" we are constantly broadcasting our intent like a flashing point of reference within a global positioning map of programmed potential reality.

However, the secret is that the power of the program is coming from US and it is being used to restrict our potential!

Apparently, we are the most restricted humanoid experience in existence.

Moreover, this restriction is achieved through the mechanism of filtering our potential into a programmed reality by getting us to "think" our potential into the program.

If we want to achieve true freedom from this restricted potential, we have to break free from the desire to broadcast all our intuition into thought.

While it may seem that, my answer is entirely based of the movie the Matrix, in reality these ideas have been around before the wachowski brothers came into the scene and it is very likely that their movie was based on many of these pre-existing ideas

In-fact when they were asked what the purpose behind making the matrix trilogy was, they have always said that it will all make sense in time.

So what will we do if we learn not to think?

I believe that if we can achieve this change, then instead of thinking and communicating with words, we will eventually learn to communicate telepathically (as we were meant to do)

We will eventually exist purely within intuition and telepathy.

Only then can we be free of the suppression system called "conscious thought".

Since our entire physical identity is based on the "thinking experience”, the transition from the thinking experience to the intuitive experience will be literally the death of the identity that we have always known.

So it is best not attempted until other faculties such as telepathy are grasped and used with familiarity.

It is too early for all of us to rush into this "not thinking" experience as blind followers looking for the next great leading edge concept. (Especially those trying to make a quick buck out of it).

It may take the rest of our lifetime just to learn to switch off the thinking process and mentally solve problems with pure intuition.

However, if this desire to learn to switch off the "thinking mind" is combined with the simultaneous expansion of the intuitive point of reference, I believe that telepathy will naturally awaken as a side effect of intuition.

If we are successful, we can be the first generation of humanity to transition from mental slavery to creative freedom within our lifetime.

Then we can truly experience the power of our consciousness and its relationship to reality.

Now the Disclaimer: The above concept is my amalgamation of a particular slice of interest within a much wider interest in the nature of consciousness. It is by no means a major obsession or an “ultimate truth” regarding consciousness. It is however a borrowed concept whose origins are found within the works of spiritual seekers such as krishnamurti and prabhupada, authors such as Jane Roberts, Carlos Castaneda, and from the secret teachings of a couple of secret societies.


answered 25 Jan '13, 23:49

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