Possible duplicate: Are Eckhart Tolle (The Power Of Now) and the Law Of Attraction compatible?

Hi there! It's been a while... I am fond of the LOA and this site, and more recently, I started reading Eckhart Tolle's books, which strongly resonate with me too.

The LOA states that you can think about past, present or future as long as you get a vibration of 'feeling good', that you are to keep your mind focused in what you want and get convinced that you will have it, etc.

Eckhart Tolle, on the other hand, wants us to create some 'space' for Presence, and claims that too much thought is harmful for Spiritual purposes, and beg us to clear our minds of all thought, several times a day if possible.

I like both ideas. I know for experience that the LOA works, but I need to be more spiritual too...

How would you reconcile both teachings? Can they be reconciled? If so, what could it be the best way?

Thanks in advance, and Happy New Year for all of you, all the best for 2012!!!


asked 03 Jan '12, 07:23

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edited 03 Jan '12, 10:06

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@BJ09 welcome back! You should give "The Power of Now" a listen too. It is a great audio-book and its really great with Tolle reading it

(03 Jan '12, 10:16) ursixx

@Ursixx Thanks! Will give it a go...Where can I get it??? :P

(04 Jan '12, 07:35) BridgetJones09

Sorry about the duplicate question but it didn't show up in the suggested questions when I was writing it...I think mine is slightly different in this sense: I am asking what would IW users do to reconcile both ideas. More of a personal question I think. But I read the duplicate and found it very useful! xxx

(04 Jan '12, 07:41) BridgetJones09
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Yes welcome back BJ09, long time no see :) ... the LOA and the teachings of Eckhart Tolle can be shown to fit in nicely together using the bagua concept, here is a diagram;


It's a good tool for showing how subtle energy manifests itself in our physical world.The central circle is well known as the yin yang, it represents the void from which pure thought is born and manifests itself as a dynamic polar force radiating outwards ... polar meaning to possess opposite poles, negative and positive. It's one of the five forces through which all physical phenomena are manifested, these five forces also known as the five elements can be symbolized by fire, wood(air), water, earth and metal.

The central idea (force) manifests itself through the other four polarized forces forming eight directional forces and nine forces in all, also known as the nine ki. These eight directions are shown as trigrams, positive is represented by a full line and negative is represented by broken line. All physical matter is held in dynamic equilibrium by these opposing subtle energy forces.The yin yang is considered to be the concept of a double polarity interactive and omnipresent force in nature (ref.The Inner Canon of Huangdi).

Moreover, following this directional concept, we come to find how the Law of Tenfold Return fits into the scene.

Here is a diagram to illustrate ;


The forces expand and form eight individual circles, themselves forming a large concentric virtual circle(the tenth force), and this virtual circle resonates in perfect harmony with the original yin yang circle, the original idea. The whole system seems to respire ... inhaling and exhaling the tenfold return.

This system clearly shows that what we think determines the direction that we take and that these thoughts are magnified ... more attracts more and less attracts less.We create our own lives through our thoughts.

A simplified version of this diagram is represented by a circle with a dot in the center, it is the symbol of the sun, a dynamic continuous exchange of energy between the central dot energy source and the circumference.Servranx use this form in the graphic no. 23 to relieve fatigue and depression the activating force being that of the ambient subtle energies


. In the master key system chapter ten, this symbol within a square is used, the square being the symbol of the planet earth, beneficial energies are called on to radiate to the four corners of the earth. The symbol in this case is activated by visualization ... a virtual cone is created in the imagination that has the effect of pulling spiritual energy towards its base, a connection spirit/symbol is created at the point of the cone.

have fun :)


answered 03 Jan '12, 10:28

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blubird two

edited 04 Jan '12, 01:49

Thank you, bluebird two! I am interested in TAO and I ching too. I had seen the diagram before but didn't know what it meant. You took a lot of trouble in your answer! Thx xxx

(04 Jan '12, 07:38) BridgetJones09

Thank you BJ09 for understanding ... have a great day

(04 Jan '12, 07:44) blubird two

Blubird a very impresive answer good for you.

(07 Jan '12, 06:47) Paulina 1

@blubird two - I love the I Ching! And this is a very impressive and interesting answer!

(26 Aug '12, 14:04) Dollar Bill

@blu too bad you left before meeting ru. You have much in common. Like DB & Paulina both said "Really impressive answer blu!" The second link doesn't seem to work - perhaps ru could fix it..

(27 Apr '13, 06:03) ele
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Excellent Question BJ,

To reconcile LOA and ET ...

There are two movements in the universe. One is the outgoing movement away from source (like the big bang expansion), this is the movement of creating, becoming, manifestation, experiencing, desiring, building, more and more. Aligning yourself with this outgoing movement you will use the Law of Attraction. The other is the return movement back to source, this is the movement of dissolution of ego, letting go, surrendering, releasing all desires, allowing what is to be as it is, perfection in present, end of separation, less and less. Aligning yourself with this return movement you will use Mr Tolle's Teachings.

If you have unfulfilled desires, then LOA will appeal to you. If you have experienced enough, laughed enough, cried enough, suffered enough, and have began to see that all desires and manifestation will ultimately lead to suffering, only then you will resonate deeply with the teachings of Mr Tolle.

The closer you are to the source, the more effective LOA is, but the closer you are to source, the less you are inclined to use LOA! The less desires you have, the more instantly and powerfully your desires will manifest. I once met a yogi who told me that he has to be very careful not to wish for anything because his slightest wish gets instantly manifested but then he would feel ashamed for having had any desire other than what is already manifested perfectly by the universe in the present moment.

He who wants does not have. - Law of Unending Desires. He who has does not want. - Law of Contentment. To he who has more shall be given. - Law of Attraction. He who goes beyond both wanting and having has entered the now forever. - Law beyond Laws.


answered 05 Jan '12, 12:32

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Love your answer! Thank you very much. It makes a lot of sense to me.

(06 Jan '12, 08:45) BridgetJones09

Love your answer too and it is beautiful. Love Mr. Tolle. Have any of you seen the videos of the webcasts of "The New Earth" by Oprah and Eckhardt Tolle? They are worth it.

(07 Jan '12, 06:44) Paulina 1

@Paulina Yes, I've seen some videos. they're really cool!

(09 Jan '12, 09:11) BridgetJones09

Excellent answer, I believe what you say to be Truth.

(26 Apr '13, 16:35) zotac
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