I ask this because as I sit in this chair listening to my favorite band "Ween" Listing to a song called " Right to the ways and the rules of the world" I find great resonance. As much as I would like to say I directly see a correlation between the song title and the obvious meaning that we imagine of it from the title, my mind can not make the connection. It is funny because when I run it through my heart, the words do not HAVE to mean and say what I would hope it would to MAKE the experience more meaningful. It finds meaning to me from the vibration of resonance I suppose. IS this happen with anyone else? Or just me ? You read the lyrics and you will see there is no real great meaning or spiritual significance, But damnit, it feels like love to me. :-)

Basicly I am wondering. IS it me that does this with all things i feel love for? movies, books, songs, finding the spiritual meanings when there is none to be had by most ?

lyrics by Ween- Right to the ways and the rules of the world.

*** Monsters that trinkle like cats in the night.

The cosmic conceiver continues his plight.

A war of the heavens, what's wrong and what's right.

Right 2 the ways and the rules of the world.

Right 2 the ways and the rules of the world.

Spraying the children with incense and myrrh.

The hopeless confessions of minds unsure.

Spraying the children with incense and myrrh.

Right 2 the ways and the rules of the world.

Right 2 the ways and the rules of the world.

I tried to come over and see you today.

I tried to come over to want you to say.

I wanted to say to come today.

Right 2 the ways and the rules of the world.

Right 2 the ways and the rules of the world.

Mindlessy hoping she falls for their minds.

Holding the sacraments, secrets unkind.

Chewing the curdles of cream from the rain.

Right 2 the ways and the rules of the world. Chewing the grits...

Right 2 the ways and the rules of the world


love n light


asked 08 Apr '13, 16:52

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edited 22 Apr '13, 09:52

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What do you mean "there is no real great meaning or spiritual significance"? What do you think the lyrics mean?

(08 Apr '13, 17:18) flowsurfer

@flowsurfer i mean that to most people who would listen to this song, could not find great meaning to the words. i do, but i know it is because it resonates so deeply, I feel is if i add the meanings to them myself.

(08 Apr '13, 17:37) TReb Bor yit-NE

I know I can hear a "spiritual" interpretation to 90% of the songs I listen to, one that usually makes more sense than the explicit meaning. The same with movies and even TV shows.

(08 Apr '13, 19:55) flowsurfer

Yes,. please, add that as ur answer if u wish, and expand a lil more, this is kinda what i wanted to hear from others,

(08 Apr '13, 20:17) TReb Bor yit-NE

@flowsurfer do you also hear music? I do & always have.

(08 Apr '13, 21:13) ele

Thats funny,last wed I woke up at 3am to a song I know,but the words were different.It played over and over till I finally got up and wrote the words out.Just thought I'd share.lnl

(08 Apr '13, 21:18) Roy

I appreciate hearing this @Roy Are you in a band by any chance? lnl? I'll have to google that one. I love when this happens. Haha short for love & light!

(08 Apr '13, 21:52) ele

@roy Do u have any of these words roy ? do u have contrasted old to new lyrics?

(09 Apr '13, 07:22) TReb Bor yit-NE

This is one more i found that resonates greatly http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LjHGJ5hRSLY

(09 Apr '13, 11:24) TReb Bor yit-NE

What you seek, you will find. Delusions of the mind. Looking for meanings is exploring of bottomless pit.

(16 Apr '13, 03:34) CalonLan

@calonlan Thank u my brother. It is always great to hear from you.

(20 Apr '13, 09:47) TReb Bor yit-NE

@treb likewise :)

(22 Apr '13, 06:56) CalonLan
(22 Apr '13, 07:52) TReb Bor yit-NE
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For starters, our perception will automatically shift so we see what we want to see wherever we look to see it, but the LoA also causes us to be surrounded further by things that can easily be seen in the light we desire to see them in.

The radio around me wherever I go almost always sings to my mood. I like to call it being haunted by the radio, but it isn't a negative at all. It gives me a clear window into what is truly occupying my mind and heart, even when I don't want to admit it.

Also, not only do we see what we want, and surround ourselves with what we want to see, but everything actually does often hold those deeper meanings anyway.

"Everything is kung fu." ;)


answered 09 Apr '13, 13:01

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Bravo my dear friend. Bravo..

(09 Apr '13, 13:06) TReb Bor yit-NE

Does a tree grow to please our eye with its beauty? Or to provide comfort of shade on a hot summer day? Is it there to grow fruits or give a home to family of birds? Or perhaps just to grow big and get chopped down and be turned into firewood? Maybe it was planted where it is, to coordinate the next meteorite high fiving our planet. Well, [insert any meaning here]...cause the tree itself sure bears none by itself.

(16 Apr '13, 03:47) CalonLan

Your tree is there for your experience and my tree is here for mine

(16 Apr '13, 04:00) ursixx

You just inserted a meaning, which is no less artificial creation of mind than all the other meanings I have mentioned above and all the others I haven't thought of.

It was more to point out the essence of trying to desperately justify the existence and give things meanings or rather persuade oneself they hold meaning by themselves. Then get entangled in the game of trying to find what is the meaning of each thing we encounter, thus forever keeping ourselves busy by looking for things that...

(16 Apr '13, 04:05) CalonLan

...don't exist outside our perception,but live only in our minds.

Based on which we create delusional debates like this one where we indulge in blabbering on only to amuse, amaze,sometimes hurt or sadden our illusion of self,which to no surprise doesn't exist outside our perception,over the things that never existed either.=)

Which makes me think of "higher self" as just because a group of people agree on a delusion of some sort,doesn't make it any more real than the realness of a dream.

(16 Apr '13, 04:13) CalonLan

If you really want to know what purpose trees [or any form of life] serve, you should consider asking them. They may not always know themselves, but when they do if they feel like sharing with you you'll often be surprised by what they say.

There's meaning in everything and nothing, you can choose to be the cause or effect of everything you experience, everything is a coincidence or nothing is. All of these are valid, just up to you to decide for yourself.

(16 Apr '13, 04:18) Snow

What would be point of asking anyone what is their purpose. When all they could put together would be just another figment of their perception. Not to say they wouldn't surprise me with anything, since I wouldn't assume any limitations on their imagination in the first place, although i could enjoy or not something I haven't seen before.

(16 Apr '13, 04:27) CalonLan

"If you really want to know what purpose trees [or any form of life] serve, you should consider asking them." hmm . . Earth Wisdom @Snow

Book of Job, (12:7-8):

"Ask the animals, and they will teach you, or the birds of the air, and they will tell you; or speak to the earth, and it will teach you, or let the fish of the sea inform you".

(16 Apr '13, 05:58) ele

"If you really want to know what purpose trees [or any form of life] serve, you should consider asking them." hmm . . Earth Wisdom @Snow

Book of Job, (12:7-8):

"Ask the animals, and they will teach you, or the birds of the air, and they will tell you; or speak to the earth, and it will teach you, or let the fish of the sea inform you".

@CalonLan Tree Spirits!

(16 Apr '13, 06:01) ele

Omigosh, Tree spirits! Maybe I should free them... chop them trees down, pile them up and burn them altogether! That should set the spirits free.

Here I stand, the Savior of inanimate !

(16 Apr '13, 06:23) CalonLan

yup, Lumberjack Cal, I can see it now.. thanks for the laugh! You wanted a simple life & you'll get a workout at the same time.. You have no issue with the bible quote but you dispute the validity of tree spirits? How do you suppose a tree is going to talk to you if there is no spirit residing there? Nite! (I have this crazy visual of you frantically running around with an ax trying to free tree spirits - too funny lol!)

(16 Apr '13, 06:36) ele

Oh that was a bible quote...I see! I heard they send them out for free somewhere. I'd like to sign up for 300 copies....the next winter is gonna be long and you never know when you run out of paper. haha

(16 Apr '13, 06:42) CalonLan

@ele, The Bible's blind, the Torah's deaf, the Qur'an's mute / If you burned them all together you'd get close to the truth ;-)

(16 Apr '13, 07:02) CalonLan

Spiritual and scientific alike agree all is comprised of energy.

If this is true, nothing is any more or less inanimate than you or I. Every 'object' tells a story, even if it has no means to speak itself. Every 'living' 'object' tells a story, if you ask it in the right way.

"Why don't animals talk?" "Who said they don't? Just because they don't talk to you..."

Nice quote BTW.


(16 Apr '13, 17:51) Snow

@CalonLan I thought you would be impressed; aren't you the one who said I wasn't smart enough to understand bible babble? Who'd of thunk it, ELE quoting the bible! I agree, nice quote!

(16 Apr '13, 19:20) ele

@ele, If I was a little meanie, well I don't apologize, that wasn't me. And the me it was would never apologize either anyway for its not the essence of his being. haha But oh well =)

(22 Apr '13, 06:55) CalonLan

@calonlan and @ele U 2 r great . and always have been .

(28 Apr '13, 21:22) TReb Bor yit-NE

Thanks Rob - you know I love you & who doesn't love Cal?! With no email notifications any longer, I missed Cal's comment.

(29 Apr '13, 00:01) ele

@CalonLan lol! li'l meanie! I know it wasn't YOU; wasn't me either that nite. I know you don't apologize. It was blatantly obvious when you said on your infamous thread "I think I should apologize"; but you never did. It would have made your transition so much easier; but you did it your way! My 'friends' marker has said inscription. He never apologized either. "To say the things he truly feels and not the words of one who kneels. The record shows I took the blows and did it my way!"

(29 Apr '13, 00:10) ele

@CalonLan "essence of your being" Love it! Your beingness.

(29 Apr '13, 00:11) ele
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I would like to explain this with an analogy. All our senses fine tune to receive that which we seek and will interpret the data accordingly. To a lover, there is interpreted beauty in small things and to somebody who has gone through multiple bitter divorces, even a rose could be devoid of it. Our desires correspond to the outer signals and translate them accordingly. We see/hear the world through tainted instruments.


answered 09 Apr '13, 11:08

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Dolly Gupta

Thank u so much for this wonderful answer. LOVE

(09 Apr '13, 13:06) TReb Bor yit-NE

One can also see the world through blessed instruments @Dolly Gupta

(16 Apr '13, 03:27) ursixx

dolly, ursixx, the instrument we enter this life with has many capabilities with some only able to unfold after a time. if the time is ripe and we still do not see, it is because we chose it to be

(29 Apr '13, 21:34) fred

LOL, i love this answer brother,

(14 Jun '13, 13:08) TReb Bor yit-NE
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something about this song has always been close to me can't describe it but it truly sings to me


answered 09 Apr '13, 08:18

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edited 09 Apr '13, 11:24

Can u find a spiritual meaning from this ? even if the words do not tell u that it is spiritual ?

(09 Apr '13, 11:09) TReb Bor yit-NE

WOW. wonderfull song. thank u for sharing.

(09 Apr '13, 11:21) TReb Bor yit-NE

yea the whole journey in the lyrics searching, finding, haunted past. and the convoluted order of the lyrics."and he just grew"

(09 Apr '13, 11:23) ursixx
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