Each of us here on Inward Quest seems to have many different views of God- or, if you choose, The Universal Power. But it does seem to be clear that we all need to believe in something. Do you think God, and/or spirituality, is necessary to us? Why is this so? I certainly need God; I am certainly a happier person because I have my beliefs. I cannot imagine not having Him in my life. But sometimes it seems that some of us feel that we are just "inventing" God. Are we?

I hope you can understand what I am trying to ask. I thought it would be interesting to discuss this.

Blessings and Love, Jai

asked 04 May '11, 20:04

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I think as humans our egoic mind cannot comprehend how powerful and limitless our true nature is so we have to invent a deity or being that is outside and separate from us so we can attribute all power to that.

Because of that we invent a God ( or whatever other terminology you want to use ) that is totally separate from us and by so doing we believe the illusion and create a reality in accordance with that... never realizing our true power because we've handed it over to something outside us.

Only when we realize that God is within us and we are individual aspects of him, do we begin to wake up and see that there's no need to invent a God because he resides within each and every one of us and we always have direct access to him :)


answered 05 May '11, 18:03

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God within/natural-God without/invented? If that is what I think you are saying then it elaborates a little more on my opinion :)

(05 May '11, 18:20) you

It sure does :)

(05 May '11, 20:05) Michaela

I believe there is something in us that is kind of a built in search for something greater and higher than we are. This is what leads us to evolution in consciousness and compassion. If we do not have this built in, we do not bother trying to be better. This because there is no better, nothing higher to live up to or look up to, as a higher ideal of what we can be. So when we have this higher ideal of a being as our father, we see in ourselves something greater than we presently are. This elevates us to be more and better than we presently are.

I found this fitting article http://www.humanistsofutah.org/2001/IsReligionHardwired_DiscGrp_10-01.html


answered 05 May '11, 03:32

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Wade Casaldi

edited 05 May '11, 03:46

No Jai,were not inventing anything.

I look at it this way,when you look at yourself in the mirror do you ask if you are inventing yourself....of course not. I bet your absolutely sure that you exist,i bet you dont even have to "stretch" your faith to believe this.

When you look in the mirror Jai you see Christ/God/Source staring back at you.

I see Christ every single morning,when i look in the mirror and before that when i see the wife lying next to me in bed.

We have as a race "externalised " God and view Him as seperate being from us.

Take a look at the gospel of John,read how many times Christ used the word "one".

He plainly stated that we were to be "ONE " with the Father "just " as He is.

If your absolutely sure you exist Jai then your sure of God by default.

Your one and the same person Jai.Its just that simple.

Now you may say "well Graham im still an individual person along with 6.6 billions others,how the hell can i be God and "one"?

And i would have to say i hadnt got a clue how God pulled this one of. Its got me stumped.

When i think of God i always think of me,when i consider Christ i see Him as me.

We can only "invent" what we really are Jai.Where does the imagination come from to imagine a God who is a single spiritual entity,nothing,and i mean nothing outside of Himself?

The imagination can only come from God,our imagination is as real as the Father is.

Thats my take anyway.Well with a little help from Neville that is!



answered 05 May '11, 08:33

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Monty Riviera

Since we are a diverse group here on Inward Quest, it is understood that our cultural and religious back ground would be different, and based upon our teachings, values, and beliefs, most of us will cling to what we were brought up to believe in spiritually, so inventing God will have to be someone else’s personal belief, otherwise it will conflict with your own personal beliefs.

Therefore, it is okay to allow others to express and share their customs, values and beliefs, in harmony! One God, one Universe, one Source, one Consciousness, one Earth, one People, and it is all good; we are all from the same spiritual energy, and we all breathe in and out the same spiritual air in the same spiritual universe; we are one and the same consciousness, connected to the one universal mind, source, or God, for it is all the same thing, except we get to choose the name we like best!


answered 07 May '11, 04:03

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Yes man invented God, the idea of god and the concept of god. The squirrels didn't tell us. The concept was taught to me and has been handed down since the beginning of mankind's ability to communicate. God has taken on many different ideas, looks and perceptions.

Why did we do it? Because man has an innate need to understand things, and the things he does not understand, he just says he does.

"I want you to know, when it comes to believing in god- I really tried. I really really tried. I tried to believe that there is a god who created each one of us in his own image and likeness, loves us very much and keeps a close eye on things. I really tried to believe that, but I gotta tell you, the longer you live, the more you look around, the more you realize…something is FUCKED UP. Something is wrong here. War, disease, death, destruction, hunger, filth, poverty, torture, crime, corruption and the Ice Capades. Something is definitely wrong. This is NOT good work. If this is the best god can do, I am NOT impressed. Results like these do not belong on the resume of a supreme being. This is the kind of shit you’d expect from an office temp with a bad attitude. And just between you and me, in any decently run universe, this guy would have been out on his all-powerful-ass a long time ago." ~George Carlin


answered 05 May '11, 01:02

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om, your idea about humans is close but clouded. the grossest misconception is the one sided interpretation of a personal god creating man in his image and likeness. man is a complex being, and more than just a physical form, evolved over eons. 'as above so below' may hold more water than you give it credit. and it is man to decrees war on his fellow men and perpetuates tortures, while most disease is from our(man's) challanges of natures order.

(05 May '11, 01:31) fred

Thanks Fred, nice

(05 May '11, 02:11) you

I have to wonder if George Carlin wishes he had believed in God now.

(05 May '11, 03:23) Wade Casaldi

Everyone has a limited time physically on earth. And I feel he made a nice enough contribution while he was here. Made me laugh :)

(05 May '11, 07:47) you

I dont think George does "wish" he did believe Wade.I dont think hid belief or un belief makes a damn bit of difference.Im sure i wouldnt punish George for his unbelief Wade. So come on...Gods got to be at least as forgiving as me...right? If he isnt youve got the wrong God Wade.....no offense mate.

(05 May '11, 08:23) Monty Riviera

It is not a question of God being forgiving as he has already forgiven everyone. It is as simple as which way you choose to turn when you are driving, one road goes to the nice section of town the other the bad section of town, when you get there you wish you had known better to have chose the correct road. It has nothing to do with punishment it is only a consequence or result.

(07 May '11, 04:21) Wade Casaldi

But the "bad" neighborhood needs my help maybe. O

(07 May '11, 17:13) you
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drop the belief and experiance! god exist (what ever name you give him) he is the nameless the eternal the source (light and universe) of everything that exist(pass present future)! in fact we are so little compare to him! you are the child he is the father!think of bacteria that would see you how could the bacteria explain to the other bacteria what you are! well us trying to explain god is the same! we lack words to describe what there is no word for! how many word would you use to define the infinity of every thing that exist (pass present future)


answered 06 May '11, 01:30

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white tiger

It doesn't matter how someone else see to understand God...its what you believe because at the end of the day you are man you are human. You have a mind to think and emotions to feel, a voice to speak and eyes to see. All of which had to have come from some where. It's all about belief...do you believe you are man. do you believe the sky os abovr you, do you believein animales, believe that water is wet? there is a god


answered 07 May '11, 09:24

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