How come we hardly ever see them? Are they tired of endlessly healing the sick, and dealing with skeptical people who are frightened by them or don't take them seriously, and so do most of their good works in secret?

asked 20 Nov '09, 20:21

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edited 30 Nov '09, 21:12

yes just like god in secret! for all those reason and more!

(21 May '11, 04:06) white tiger

@Vesuvius - this question implies that we are currently able to perceive spiritually-advanced people :)

(01 Feb '12, 00:49) blubird two

How do you define spiritually-advanced? Thanks

(18 Oct '12, 11:13) Fairy Princess
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Maybe because most people - including you and me - would simply crucify them, call them ''devils'' and ''evil ones'', and instead of teaching and guiding people, they will find themselves in a war against them. Would you want that for yourself ? .. or would you choose to simply live in peace and die in peace?

Please, forget about the idea that ''spiritually advanced'' people should sacrifice themselves for ''humanity''. That will never happen, again. Now, each and every one of us should pay his own bills, make his own choices, heal his own body, and even forgive his own sins. Maybe this is what being ''spiritually advanced'' is all about! ..

Maybe .. their own absence is a lesson - the most important lesson - that most of us just choose not to learn.


answered 21 Nov '09, 06:59

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edited 21 Nov '09, 07:05

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I for one would not call them Devil's, I don't think there is anything evil about a person who Knows who and what they are, which is truly UNIQUE and overflowing with Compassion.As to myself I like to Live and let Live and I would love to choose My ending. Would'nt that be awesome.

(24 Nov '09, 22:41) Roy

i agree adel the work are done in secret so no one will get on the cross.

(27 Jun '11, 06:27) white tiger

until they lift that stone and properly split that piece of wood nothing can be done,and the blind still lead the blind,and by their own self rightenous they say we see and we want to be the judge,you hypocrites first remove your piece of wood then you will be able to remove the piece of wood in your brother eyes until that is done you cannot properly split that piece of wood.even if you hide under that stone it will not save you,on the last day those stone will be given back to you and fire-

(18 Oct '12, 18:08) white tiger

will come out of those stones and burn you. when you make the outside like the inside, the below like the above,the left like the right,and when you will be at peace with your self and other outside of the cup and inside of the cup when that water in the cup will be pure and the light will shine for over 40 days,then you will find the narrow gate of truth to go above in spirit and light.

(18 Oct '12, 18:14) white tiger
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I do not think that Spiritually advanced people are as rare as we think they are.I'm sure you are aware of Bodhisattvas,Liaka and Earthkeepers just to mention a few, that prefer to help Humankind without being in the forefront, not such a bad idea. Love and Light:) I added this for a laugh,view in full screen.


answered 20 Nov '09, 22:06

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edited 20 Nov '09, 23:40

Laughter definitely is the best medicine.

(21 Nov '09, 00:20) Michaela

I could not get the link

(21 Nov '09, 02:57) flowingwater

I would tend to use the term "enlightened" as opposed to spiritually advanced. We're just all at different stages on our journey and none more advanced than others. Without a doubt there are some exceptional beings who are fully enlightened and get the whole picture. For most of these they are quite happy to stay out of the limelight as their real intention is to help mankind end our suffering and awake to who we truly are.I don't think a genuinely enlightened person could ever become tired of helping others - that is their mission here, and I'm sure the satisfaction and joy they derive from helping others outweighs any urge to be tired of it.


answered 21 Nov '09, 13:30

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Great answer, and very well-balanced and practical! Thanks! Many Blessings, Jaianniah

(06 Dec '09, 12:35) Jaianniah

A P.S. Nobody crucified Mother Theresa! :) Jai

(06 Dec '09, 12:39) Jaianniah

Thanks for your thoughtful comment :-)

(14 Dec '09, 01:23) Michaela

thank you michaela! god work in secret and so does enlightened people! but one that is not enlightenend can not see through ignorance and expect someone to do things like spliting the sea in 2!but there is no need for that! and every one as free will! so enlightened people work with people with out them knowing it!

(21 May '11, 04:16) white tiger
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I once asked a friend of mine who is a firm believer in the law of attraction, why don't I hear a lot about people who are astoundingly rich and own more riches than you could ever imagine. Surely they must exist.

He answered that I am just not a vibrational match to those people as I don't feel as prosperous as they do. If you feel prosperous, you will attract those people in your life as they do exist. I think there is some truth in this.

And now, do I dare make my answer specific to your question...


answered 24 Nov '09, 19:48

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well pink diamond someone that is perfect does not consider money as a priority. jesus said if you want to be perfect leave everything you own and follow me. i will ask you a question and you will understand something. what if you find a treasure in a field that no money or anything in the world could buy would you seek money as a priority? look in this world somepeople are rich and are not happy. what makes you think that someone needs to be rich or a star to be spiritually advence or enlighten? here is another question if a gave you a choice money or saving someone what you pick?

(03 Oct '11, 02:51) white tiger

I have to agree with this. We generally have access to mostly people who are within our "range". And as you find yourself growing spiritually, I think you will meet more and more spiritually mature people.

Of course, it's not just about range but about expectation as well. If you have a solid belief that the world is full of spiritually advanced people, then this will be mirrored back to you.And if you believe most people are spiritually stunted, well...

LOA- look within as well as without.

(18 Oct '12, 10:44) cassiopeia

I don't think they're all that rare. I think they don't feel a strong need for self-promotion, so they quietly go about performing their enlightened works. Of course, there are people who occasionally notice there's something different about a spiritually-advanced person; and at other times, the works themselves are significant enough that they draw attention to the one who performs them. With some exceptions, I don't think they are intentionally keeping their works secret, they are simply focused on the task at hand and don't get caught up in making a show of themselves.


answered 21 Nov '09, 08:14

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Very good question and good answers too. I'm tempted to add my two cent's worth. It is not uncommon to view spiritually advanced people as beacons of virtue or close to being perfect.

People can be spiritually 'advanced' yet be grappling with personal life issues at the same time. So, appearances deceive! Some of the people involved in the 'spiritual' stream do very actively seek publicity and limelight. It turns out that not all of them seek publicity only to draw attention to the cause for waking people up to higher possibilities but sometimes even for mundane and selfish reasons too.

What criteria do we use to recognize the 'spiritually advanced people'? Luke Skywalker, in the Star Wars, initially rejects the advanced Jedi Master Yoda because Yoda doesn't correspond to Luke's idea of an advanced Jedi Master. It seems that almost all great masters have to perform miracle to convince ordinary people. Jesus had to perform miracles like converting water into wine, raise the dead and calm the stormy sea before his disciples took him seriously. So, it seems that we cannot recognize spiritually advanced people if we are not ready for it.

Thanks for hilarious video link. Will try that one out!


answered 22 Nov '09, 15:47

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edited 22 Nov '09, 15:55

thank you rana you have a very good description of what is causing that ignorance in people! someone you know might be one but will not tell you because you could not accept it!

(21 May '11, 04:21) white tiger

Hey Vesuvius. Why not you?

The fact that you are asking the question could mean that your own soul is trying to inspire you towards this worthy quest. I think spiritual quest is an inner drive within all of us & some have become better at it perhaps over many lifetimes of accumulated effort.

It is quite possible that if all of us start believing that spiritually advanced people are everywhere, with enough of us reaching a critical mass of consciousness we could push the balance over causing a flood of spontaneous awakening within our group and within mankind.

Or maybe we can just watch TV and forget the whole thing & let the next generation of incarnate souls perhaps 30-40 thousand years in the future try the same experiment of mass spiritual awakening.


answered 27 Nov '09, 02:22

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edited 22 Dec '09, 03:16

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to have positive energy is good! as for spiritual awakening or enlightement it is with in!

(21 May '11, 04:26) white tiger

Everyone is spirirtually advanced,they just havent learnt how to get in touch with their gifts.They block the fact that it even exist.They are what is known to us with these abilities as sceptics.They don't even want to know what we can do,or even hear about it,and in doing so they block their own abilities.You have to see things differantly,and go through many differant tests that only a gifted person knows what im talking about.You have to let your inner self come to serface.Thats why its hard to find people with these gifts,not that there isn't alot of them,they may not want to except the change.Or alot of times they aren't noticed as gifted,but as a crazy person in order to satisfy human answers.All in all, we do all have these gifts.Just let them come to serface,and keep an open mind,you'll see.


answered 13 May '11, 19:22

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there is no worse blind that someone that does not want to see! and the enlightened will not lose time! trying to make someone like that see even jesus could not cure some people of there affliction because they where not ready yet!

(21 May '11, 04:48) white tiger

There is no such thing as spiritually advanced.


answered 21 May '11, 17:31

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Why are spiritually advanced people so rare? The Bible teaches that many are called, and few are chosen! Are you one of the chosen one, and if so, how spiritually advanced are you, and who would you compare yourself to?

Do you consider yourself rare, if so, why, and where do you think that you fit into this rare group of spiritually advanced people?

All human beings are spiritually advanced in the level of their understanding in the spiritual aspects of things. Some of us are latent in learning to use, and develop our unique gifts, and spirituality; while some of us have the natural ability of a seeker, and will continue to explore our unique gifts, and spirituality.

It is said that we are limited in our knowledge, and that learning is continuous. Therefore, we should never cease to learn from each other, and to aspire to our best. Regardless of how much we try to learn, there is always going to be someone that knows something that we can learn from. The student learns from the teacher, in the same token that the teacher learns from the student.

We all have a choice in life, or a calling, to be whatever we feel drawn to. I am a seeker and I guess I will continue to be a seeker, because every day I learn something new that adds to the quality of my life, my advancement, and enlightenment spiritually.

Generally, some people are not interested in the subject matter of spiritual enlightenment; therefore I cannot share with them the work that I do, unless there are open to the subject. I cannot say to them, I am a healer, or sit down, and I will lay my hand upon your forehead, and pray, and heal you of your headache. They will probably think that I am certainly loosing it, and should be going in to see my family doctor for a check-up.

But you can still do the work you were called to do, and you can still help the people that will ask you for help, and you can still pray for the people that do not ask you for help, and maybe one day they will ask you for help. As they say life is full of surprises, and you never know what can happen!


answered 22 Dec '09, 09:37

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Rare, yes. :) Spiritually advanced? No.

(22 Dec '09, 14:55) Vesuvius

one that is do not need to compare him self to anny other! it is not a job of saying i am better then someone else! it is being free of ignorance and seing things that other people don't! and working with that balence and energy! to a point that it change stuff with out anny one noticing!

(21 May '11, 04:30) white tiger

@ white tiger: Yes, there is much done behind the scene without anyone noticing!

(26 May '11, 05:34) Inactive User ♦♦
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an elnlightened person, no matter what the masses, and contemporary media tell you is extremely rare. Why" because to be enightened is to become unconditional love--no self...just Love. But the path to get there is not meditation as many would have you believe, as meditation is only a tool, and no matter how well you circle your fingers while in lotus position, you are only playing ego games with a tool. A hammer is a tool, but without wood, there is no house. Same for meditation--the hammer chipping away illusions. The wood, is to walk the path of informed experience, a difficult venture. Buddha said Life is like a golden lotus flower...has its roots in the mud, but pure at the top. You experiences, if in truth, will eventually bring pain--an end, and a death, and releasing pain brings empathy, and when one gets enough experiences "disillusioned" coupled with contemplation-meditation, the ego begins to lose power...and after many deepening cycles of pain-empathy...the ego dies (as empathy puts one in a struggle between it-empathy and ego-self. As long as a truly advanced empathic one has self, it becomes increasingly clear how self interfers with true connections and help etc, a painful realization with no cure. So then, out of final pain, empathy (when enough) kills final pain (of self) and only LOVE remains. Know any people who talk in this way...then there is your answer in just how many, and why so few. Most people push pain away, and trapped pain is suffering, they are different, with different effects....and suffering leads to meanness, and meanness to evil...opposite of love...but most go in that way to varying degrees. Most humans cant take the pain, and most think pain gives nothing beautiful...but releasing it properly grows empathy-the eventual killer of ego. And crossing that desert, and it is a desert, with not many comrades, in the final days, is a dry and bitter place to move through...a dark night so to of no place for ego, and absolute abandonment is felt on horizon...something all societies fear...the truth.


answered 31 Jan '12, 22:08

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i liked your answer only the beguinning of it is in error. one needs to use the deep meditation to solve the veils of the soul. and reflection to know what is what in your daily life. or satsang to stay in truth if you prefer. experience and enjoy.

(31 Jan '12, 22:29) white tiger

White Tiger...I do understand that, without meditation, one can never be released. However, all the famous teachings that are so prevalent to people today miss one very important point -- Unless you are willing to face 1000 deaths of experience, no meditation, no guru can do anything for you. We place too much emphasis on meditation and all its terminology, so ego can get lost to the truth of the deaths we must be willing to face... something that goes against every tenet of every society.

(31 Jan '12, 22:58) Raymond naturewolf

well i tell you Raymond nature wolf many get lost in ego and many get lost in meditation has well. but there his always hope that they will find the truth and stay in the truth. some use meditation has body excercise other has visualization technique but they should not stop there they should go to witness meditation and beyond. then when they will be out of the mud they will see the golden light and at the top the absolute truth(god) experience and enjoy.

(31 Jan '12, 23:11) white tiger
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I believe you have probably answered your own question Vesuvius. I believe they do most of their good works in secret. I am sure they are tired. The world is an big place and humans are sick, frighten, and very doubtful.

I don't think spiritual advanced people are so rare but I do think they do what they do in private and in secret as possiable so that they are allowed to do more when they want to without being disturb by humans hanging around in the way. The work they are doing is of such great magnititude!

Jesus said be careful about entertaining strangers for you may be entertaining an angel. So, I am sure they are among us doing what they do best as well.

Yes, there are people, other beings, angels, and other entities here helping the earth and humans.


answered 20 Nov '09, 22:10

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And when thou prayest, thou shalt not be as the hypocrites are: for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and in the corners of the streets, that they may be seen of men. Verily I say unto you, They have their reward.But thou, when thou prayest, enter into thy closet, and when thou hast shut thy door, pray to thy Father which is in secret; and thy Father which seeth in secret shall reward thee openly.But when ye pray, use not vain repetitions, as the heathen do: for they think that they shall be heard for their much speaking.

(21 May '11, 14:54) white tiger

Be not ye therefore like unto them: for your Father knoweth what things ye have need of, before ye ask him.Ask, and it shall be given you; seek, and ye shall find; knock, and it shall be opened unto you:For every one that asketh receiveth; and he that seeketh findeth; and to him that knocketh it shall be opened.And the peace of God, which passeth all understanding, shall keep your hearts and minds through Christ Jesus.

(21 May '11, 14:59) white tiger

Oh! Yes, white tiger so true what you said about praying to God our heavenly Father and Jesus Christ his son asked and we shall receive so true white tiger.

(05 Jun '11, 00:09) flowingwater
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spiritual advancement is a process. its a road that many are not even aware exists- to seek the kingdom is to develope spiitually-if one does not even know to look -how can one possibilly find.thats the purpose of all religions- to remind people that they are to be concerned about their spiritual lives


answered 13 Dec '09, 23:43

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Hi Vesuvius

Good question actually. Something that I often think on this 'road less travelled'..."where the heck are the others?" I too feel quite alone on this journey towards 'enlightenment'. For instance, in my workplace, all the others seem to be into very basic traits such as gossip, backbiting, complaining etc. I simply cannot relate to these people and refuse to enter into their ways. Thus, I feel alone a lot of the time. Perhaps I am not very 'enlightened' as I know that Jesus (THE enlightened One) spent most of his time with these sort of people, just loving and accepting them. I would love to meet other seekers of Truth from time to time. Perhaps I need to start thinking about them and then they will appear?

Also, thanks so much Roy for the 'laughing video' was hilarious! Laughter definitely IS the best medicine :) The man on the train was perhaps an Angel in disguise :)

Blessings to you all Amanda :)


answered 22 Dec '09, 04:42

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Your welcome Amanda,I laugh every time I view it. Its said Like attracts Like. Love and Light

(22 Dec '09, 16:23) Roy

amanda experiance! way of other do not have to be your way!

(21 May '11, 04:33) white tiger

do not seek to contend join other people in what is good!as for what is not good drop it and it will turn to dust!

(21 May '11, 15:04) white tiger
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How do you define "advanced"? -- as "more advanced than the average"! Here you are, by definition you've just limited your target group. Seriously, if we lived on a spiritually-backward planet and you asked this question, the proportion of whom you considered "advanced" would stay the same, as you would treat as "advanced" those that are barely sentient by our standards here/now. Or am I just being a jerk with such a kind of answer? :)


answered 13 Oct '10, 21:37

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people see limit every where! the only limit is those that you imposse! as for standards who can judge another in the absolute truth of things? if you ask question about your answer i think you are seing something try not to judge your self !

(21 May '11, 04:42) white tiger

God sends only the really advanced ones (prophets) everyone in a while when the majority of the world needs some straightening out.


answered 13 Oct '10, 22:19

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then there is prophet always because there is always straightening out to do!

(21 May '11, 04:44) white tiger

as for being rare yes very fee find the narrow gate!or the middle way!but know this the earth always have 1 sun watching over it and giving it light always!what ever happens! well good luck on the path!


answered 21 May '11, 15:15

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