I mentioned a Star Trek: The Next Generation episode that posits this truth. Is it true? Do you think that we are always tapping into a source of energy that we just cannot measure as of this date?

asked 06 Dec '09, 02:23

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@Jai - this question seems to correspond exactly to the triad source energy/electric/magnetic ref IQ question "connecting the mind-of-god and the law of attraction" ...

(17 Feb '12, 03:55) blubird two

@blubird two- Yes, it does...Thanks for pointing that out! Love, Jai

(17 Feb '12, 04:05) Jaianniah
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Space and time are the same geometry, the same fabric, yes. That's why time goes by differently for objects that go through space at different speed, as Einstein found out, that's why it's called the Theory of Relativity. Here it is explained and visualized more or less well: YouTube: The Elegant Universe - Einstein's Relativity

Now the question if our thoughts are merely a part in this same pattern, is once again the age old debate of "The material world creates consciousness" versus "Consciousness creates the material world".

Conventional science blindly relies on the former, assuming that we are biological machines and our thoughts and action stem from the particels in our brains and how they are related to each other, creating a quite complex Neural Network. Of course, those particles would also follow the rules of physical laws.

If it is on the other hand true that consciousness creates reality, like some interpretations of Quantum theory (which are considered fringe though) suggest, then this would mean that the space time fabric is just one concept or idea of existence of many. We could imagine that some of our crazy, illogical dream worlds we experience at night would actually be real in some other dimension.


answered 06 Dec '09, 14:52

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you spelled particles wrong.

decent article, but I believe that the answer lies somewhere in between the two concepts.
likely both of these ideas are enmeshed, along with some as of yet undiscovered ones in a complex weave of reality.

(21 Jan '11, 11:42) electrodynamicist of the nuts

I would say that space and time, as we know it, are products of thought.

God (or the Universal) created the universe and the world we live in. When he did so, he created time and space for us, so that everything doesn't all run together and happen all at once.

Similarly, we re-create time and space in our own minds as part of our observational and thought processes.

From God's perspective, however, it is all happening in the same eternal moment and infinite space.


answered 06 Dec '09, 05:44

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vesuvius, from where do you get the idea/belief that god created space fred

(22 Jan '11, 01:59) fred

oh, and god? what makes you think he exists?

if he does exist, he requires our 'faith' to survive. without that, he's just an idea.

and if this is true, and any evidence were to come along proving the existence of god, he would, by this admission, cease to exist.

this explains much. fundamentalists are afraid of science because it may discover proof of god, thereby murdering it.

god's an imaginary number. kind of like sqrt(2). he can be useful, but he isn't really there.


answered 21 Jan '11, 11:45

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electrodynamicist of the nuts

maybe there are some concepts that our minds are not yet capable of understanding , let alone describe to someone else. space and thought in infinite duration are connected as is all life. while time is usually the measure of a finite material form, so in a different category.

(22 Jan '11, 02:10) fred

Who knew that random firing of neurons could manifest such complexity of analysis of the unknown?

(03 Feb '11, 21:43) The Traveller

what if it is not random firing of neurons, why do you choose to believe that order manifests from randomness

(04 Feb '11, 13:12) fred
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Yes, it all from the one, and the same energy, except man has founds ways to identify with space, time, and thought in our world!


answered 22 Jan '11, 03:12

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As humans that have only lived on earth it is hard for us to imagine time and space being two separate things. We like to think of time as being consistent and never changing. Always reliable. However this is not the case. Time is relative to where you are or what "space" you are occupying, or how fast you are traveling. This is demonstrated everytime we send astronauts into putter space. Because they are moving around 11000 MPH time is effecting them less because of the space they are occupying in such a short amount of time. Its not noticeable but if you could look through a telescope and see them through a window they would be moving slower. Granted only fractions of milliseconds but slower non the less. The faster they go the more aparent this becomes as explained in Einstein's theory of relativity and proved when astronauts clocks are behind when arriving back on earth.


answered 03 Feb '11, 17:39

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John 6

If indeed God created all ex-nihilo (suddenly and abruptly out of nothing) he did so with the appearance of age. he created the trees, the animals, even the first man, with the appearance of age, and 'breathed into him the breath of life' as the story goes. in kind, he would had also done the same in creating the sun and moon, the galaxies, the universe and all its stars. In other words, he did not create the stars, then wait billions of years for their lights to reach the earth, he created them in place with their lights already touching earth - Appearance of age. just like Adam, the trees, the fish... everything.

now this is where it gets tricky: according to the bible, creation had no corruption in it, it was good. then something happened. time and space (creation itself) became subjected to corruption by one man's sin. Adams eating of the forbidden fruit started a universal explosion of death and thermal dynamics, time began to tick, turn and move, and man was driven from the garden to join it. so here we are; we look to the farthest star, then measure the speed of its light not taking into account its newness. perhaps quantum equations based upon a much earlier universe would reveal more accurate and breakthrough science which may propel us into a new age of this time and space. rich


answered 16 Feb '12, 22:19

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Rich Hamilton

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