1. Jesus said, "The Father's kingdom is like a person who wanted to kill someone powerful. While still at home he drew his sword and thrust it into the wall to find out whether his hand would go in. Then he killed the powerful one."


"Put your sword back in its place," Jesus said to him, "for all who draw the sword will die by the sword


so at the level of the father's kingdom someone that has the (at home: meaning the mind) intent to kill someone and hit a wall to see if is hand can cross the wall will kill (him self) the powerful one.

what do you think?

asked 17 Jan '12, 23:01

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white tiger

edited 17 Jan '12, 23:02


It sounds like you've already concluded this text to be related to karma. What other ideas have you conjured up over this reading?

(21 Jan '12, 19:38) Constantine
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Physical aggression begets aggression. There is no way to escape it. Even if the aggression was justified, If you are fixated by it , you will lead that life. Since our perception of reality creates this reality, shaping your perception to only acknowledge the situation will clear you of being caught by a false belief. Know that you are fluid, and can squeeze between the views and be relative. All forms are valid even if they are negative.


answered 21 Jan '12, 22:56

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The Knights Alchemy

do not worry i have no belief. but i have faith.

(21 Jan '12, 23:54) white tiger

Hello white tiger ... for me this is yet another expression of the law of attraction and tenfold return, that is whatever we send out, in thought, word or deed, comes back to us tenfold ... "for all who draw the sword will die by the sword" or in other words aggression attracts aggression ... peace :)


answered 18 Jan '12, 00:14

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blubird two

I agree with bluebird - agression atracts aggression. Well said, bluebird!

(18 Jan '12, 03:53) ele

yes karma,tenfold also in bible hundredfold.Now Isaac sowed in that land and reaped in the same year a hundredfold. And the LORD blessed him, will fail to receive a hundred times as much in this present age (homes, brothers, sisters, mothers, children and fields--and with them, persecutions) and in the age to come, eternal life. http://bible.cc/mark/10-30.htm

(22 Jan '12, 00:02) white tiger

who was the author and was it witnessed.
jesus spoke of the channel to our father,
often in parables using symbolims.
how was the truth veiled,
you suggest in karma


answered 21 Jan '12, 20:53

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it comes from the gospel of thomas. The Gospel According to Thomas, commonly shortened to the Gospel of Thomas, is a well preserved early Christian, non-canonical sayings-gospel discovered near Nag Hammadi, Egypt, in December 1945, in one of a group of books known as the Nag Hammadi library.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gospel_of_Thomas

(21 Jan '12, 23:32) white tiger

Unlike the canonical Gospels, it is not a narrative account of the life of Jesus; instead, it consists of logia (sayings) attributed to Jesus, sometimes stand-alone, sometimes embedded in short dialogues or parables.

(21 Jan '12, 23:35) white tiger

the fathers kingdom is the light the spirit with out the body. well fred the home is the mind. the powerfull one is the light in the mind (the spirit). so read it and you see what is said.

(21 Jan '12, 23:50) white tiger

white tiger, now do we know who this Jesus was and when he lived. and have the sayings attributed to him been never heard by human ears before his preaching years

(22 Jan '12, 20:26) fred

well fred if you use the link it is said to have been writen by phillip around:However, Valantasis does date Thomas to 100–110 CE, with some of the material certainly coming from the first stratum which is dated to 30–60 CE pretty much about the same time has jesus and those scripture have been found in 1945. so not much alteration by other people through time.

(22 Jan '12, 23:05) white tiger

if you want to know how i have found this it is by watching the movie stigmata. The film ends with a screen of text describing the discovery of the Gospel of Thomas, believed according to the film to be the closest thing to the actual words of Jesus while alive: the film states the Catholic Church refuses to recognize the document as a gospel and considers it heresy.


(22 Jan '12, 23:13) white tiger
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