Traditional teachings and religions say that Universe is running on the principle of Cause and Effect.While Jeffry Grupp in his book "Telementation:Cosmic feeling and the Law of Attraction" says that This theory is wrong.We happen to things instead things happen to us.

What idea you people found correct in regards to LOA and Manifesting?

asked 09 Feb '12, 00:01

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cause and effect his correct. law of attraction is also correct. why that his you will ask me because each time you use free will you create something and are responsible of it. and what you create for a cause will have effect.

so be wise in your choice know the cause and effect and apply your free will wisely. experience and enjoy.

update: also it might not have touch your mind nothing ness is a white canvas that the creator paint or dye any color he choose is the starting point nothing or the idea of the creator to put something on the canvas? then the canvas is not the source of everything that is nothing. the creator is the source of everything even before it is apply to the canvas. the spirit was floating above the deep water and said let there be light, and there was light and he saw that the light was good. since water reflect light what did he saw? is own soul (mind and heart)? the flesh is flesh and the spirit is spirit. no one can enter the kingdom with out being born of water and spirit. it is written in the bible. if you find what you have in you it will save you. written in the gospel of Thomas. find a place to rest. motion and rest.

you see that bubble is the same as the universe and the same as your soul.

"Again, the kingdom of Heaven is like a merchant looking for fine pearls. When he found one of great value, he went away and sold everything he had and bought it."

seek you first the kingdom of God.

If you bring forth what is within you, what you bring forth will save you. If you do not bring forth what is within you, what you do not bring forth will destroy you.

Let there be light be the light that you can be experience and enjoy.


answered 09 Feb '12, 00:47

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white tiger

edited 28 Feb '14, 09:27

do not discount karma
our scientists cannot define
or measure it but
nor do they the first cause

attraction works as we regroup
for another earth life,
the reincarnating ego collecting what it discarded

after the deep sleep of death
refreshed and now eager
to unfold a new petal,
but what of karma

and what is correct,
that which is measured
or what has been neglected
yet tried and true


answered 09 Feb '12, 21:08

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@fred - you are a born poet my friend :)

(10 Feb '12, 00:50) blubird two

I think Cause and Effect is un-avoidable because creation is a continuous process of something emerging out of nothing.

Since the starting point (in the eternal now moment) is always nothing, within this nothing, every something must always add up to sum of nothing.

Therefore, to have anything exist within this sum total of nothing, everything has to balance its existence by being the counterpart opposite of itself.

It is the natural side effect of creating anything.

Often In manufacturing, patterns and moulds with the negative shape of the part serve as the starting point to establish the shape.

Same way, energetically speaking, the opposite of every something must simultaneously emerge into creation in order to counterbalance the disturbance created within an energetic void.


answered 28 Feb '14, 03:32

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The Traveller


perhaps, what human eyes see as nothing is what the ancients knew as root matter, the infinite source of all that is

(03 Mar '14, 05:52) fred

I believe the easiest way to see cause and effect is to look at the Gand Canyon. Did we happen to make that or was that caused through no expectation on humanities part? It was formed by erosion from the Colorado river and took many years to carve out from the flow, that had nothing to do with our expectation.

I believe it's false.


answered 28 Feb '14, 10:21

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Wade Casaldi

edited 28 Feb '14, 10:33

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