After all, gravity applies to everything, including inanimate objects. In the case of LOA, does it apply to animals? Do they think and manifest?

Just woke up curious today. :)

asked 03 Mar '10, 07:41

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Pat W

edited 03 Mar '10, 10:39

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Yes, and not just animals, but all forms of consciousness anywhere in the Universe - and that includes, individually, every living cell in your body.

Abraham say that the difference between animals and humans is that animals are less resistant to what they want, but they are also less focused about what they want.


answered 03 Mar '10, 07:51

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Agreed, Stingray.

(03 Mar '10, 13:03) Pink Diamond

I am inclined to agree except for one thing that I've been puzzled about - assuming that newborn animals would know nothing about death and disease, why would they manifest that for themselves?

(04 Mar '10, 02:09) Pat W

@PatW: An incarnating consciousness is fully aware of the generalities of the situation it is incarnating into. So it is doing it for the experience of it.

(04 Mar '10, 06:49) Stingray

So then a puppy that gets kicked is worried about being kicked and thus attracts the bully to him?

(08 Jan '12, 11:34) Wade Casaldi

All experiences are attracted by all conscious beings regardless of the physical form they happen to take, because thought attracts thought. However, I think the cause and effect relationship you are putting forward is a bit simplistic. I would say it's more like this explanation of frustration manifesting . The other thing to realize is just because you personally consider an experience to be "bad" and wouldn't want it in your own life, it doesn't mean other beings don't want the experience

(08 Jan '12, 16:45) Stingray

So to this puppy that was just born a few mounths ago maybe has a want to be kicked and that is a good thing? I am trying to understand this how the LOA works for animals.

(08 Jan '12, 17:49) Wade Casaldi

@Wade Casaldi - I'm sure you realize I can't give you a vibrational cause for a hypothetical example you've just made up :) But, speaking generally, yes, there are consciousnesses that wish to experience, for example, abortions and miscarriages...only mentioning that because it's an extreme example by human standards. Similarly, Abraham have stated quite clearly that many animals project into physical knowing they are going to be eaten and want that experience. The main difference between animals and human is simply one of focus...animals tend to be less resistant in focus, unless domesticated

(09 Jan '12, 10:21) Stingray
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Agree with Stingray's answer. If I can add something more it is this observation. Animals consciousness exist completely in the moment, therefore the description "instinctive".

If you have heard of the recent TV program "The Dog Whisperer" with Cesar Millan, watch a few episodes of that show and you will find amazing demonstrations on how dogs use their consciousness.

You can check out these following You Tube uploads about his work.
(Right click & open in a new window, otherwise you will forget & close the window instead of returning to Inward Quest)

1st link:

2nd link:

3rd link:

In case you are wondering, there is no ulterior motive on my part here, I don’t have a dog, and I don’t have any of Cesar’s DVDs.


answered 07 Mar '10, 17:29

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The Traveller

To finish off Stingrays stuff:

The huge difference between animals and humans is just the amount of progression needed in the 3 steps of creation.

Step 1- Ask Step 2- It is created Step 3- Allow

Humans and animals all do these 3 steps.

The difference is how much time each one is in what step.

Animals spend a far amount of their time in step 3, allowing. Yes, they do go into step 1, but rarely when compared with humans. Most humans spend most of their lives in step 1, and dependable how aware they are of these metaphysical concepts, the overall suggestion to maintain desires, manifestations, and happiness on Inward Quest is all about getting into step 3 alot more, like animals do failry easily.

If it humorously makes you feel better, animals have resistance issues as well as us humans; but this is again quite rare :)


answered 08 Jan '12, 08:37

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Hello Pat W, let's remind ourselves that the law of attraction is a universal law that exists since the world began and has been in operation long before humans appeared on earth ... all physical manifestations are subject to the law of attraction ... animals are physical manifestations just like us ... planets are also physical manifestations, here is an article ;

The law of attraction is that dynamic equilibrium that holds the whole of the physical universe together all the way from atoms to galaxies, including the planet earth and all that is on it.

have a great day


answered 10 Jan '12, 01:51

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edited 11 Jan '12, 00:56


Except in India where cows are sacred - nearly all cattle end up slaughtered, either for human or animal consumption. So you are saying cattle attract their fate and all cattle except those which are revered end up either in the human belly or our pets? Do they decide if they want to be a Big Mac or a Whopper or in Purina Dog Chow? I'm sorry if I sound flip - I just don't get it. So some plants attract drought only to wither and die as opposed to be eaten by me or with the exception of annuals to live and thrive for many years?

(10 Jan '12, 02:07) ele

Hello ele ... i didn't invent the law of attraction :)

(10 Jan '12, 02:11) blubird two

No, but - I thought you could explain - I just don't "get" how it applies to "dumb" animals and vegetation.

(10 Jan '12, 02:15) ele

human are dumb animal also. they do war polution etc. and out of their ego they think they are intelligent. at least the animal when he does something like barking or biting you it is to protect is master is house or him self. i wounder who is the most stupid?

(10 Jan '12, 18:06) white tiger

White Tiger - that's why I put quotation marks around dumb

(10 Jan '12, 20:28) ele

well i did not know that but now we know. thanks for telling me ele.

(12 Jan '12, 01:01) white tiger
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well yes they are under the same law. but they are more instinctive or emotionnal. and they also try to learn look at a dog you can teach him to sit to lay down to go take a leak to not pass certain limit to bring back object etc. and they are happy to work for it. it helps them grow they just want a good master. experience and enjoy.


answered 08 Jan '12, 18:53

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white tiger

I myself believe it does not apply to animals. If we look at the capacity of thought and the ability to think of what you want as a future deliberate thought of what is wanted then we need to think of it in this way. A underground pool has a shallow end and a deep end, as long as you stay in the shallow end you can not possibly know what is at the deep end. If we compare thought and say the capacity of thought for animals and little children only goes as far as the shallow end of the pool, it can not reach the deep end. That thought is only on what it is doing or experiencing now, no memories of yesterday or preferences for tomorrow, thoughts as those can not exist in that range.

So all little children and animals are innocent and need protecting and watched over because they are fully in an experiencing of what is, not of worry or hope for what may be.

The LOA works because of the matching frequency of the thought emotion and feeling with the objective of those thoughts feelings and emotions of expectancy. If you have no expectancy you can not attract to anything because you are just experiencing what is now, not worried over what may be or sad over what was but just fully in what is.

So I have to say only human intelligence that has evolved to the point of conscious awareness of what could be and what it can have has the ability to have any kind of impact on the Law of Attraction. This is why I say both babies small children and animals do not affect the Law of Attraction.

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Radio waves existed since the beginning and still exist now, they only affect humans because we have the intelligence to use them for talking and music. The radio waves do not affect animals or plants because they don't know how to use them. The Law of Attraction is the same if a thing has no desire but to just be, it can not attract anything.

Nourishment is the only exception I can think of to this.


answered 10 Jan '12, 01:40

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Wade Casaldi

edited 10 Jan '12, 14:24

i do not agree wade jesus said to be like children.4. Jesus said, "The person old in days won't hesitate to ask a little child seven days old about the place of life, and that person will live.46. Jesus said, "From Adam to John the Baptist, among those born of women, no one is so much greater than John the Baptist that his eyes should not be averted.

But I have said that whoever among you becomes a child will recognize the (Father's) kingdom and will become greater than John."

(10 Jan '12, 18:11) white tiger Jesus said, "Let the little children come to me, and do not hinder them, for the kingdom of heaven belongs to such as these." Luke 18:17 I tell you the truth, anyone who will not receive the kingdom of God like a little child will never enter it."

(10 Jan '12, 18:30) white tiger

White Tiger that is my point little children are much closer to the heaven consciousness than earthly consciousness so can not posibbly affect the Law of Attraction.

(10 Jan '12, 18:41) Wade Casaldi

ok wade so you are saying that because they are more like god with truth and experience they cannot affect the law of attraction? but that someone in the world that is more ego bond can affect the law of attraction?is it not said that if 2 make peace in the same house they will say to the mountain move and it will move? or lets take the example of neo in the matrix does he affect the matrix when he is in or out of it?

(11 Jan '12, 01:26) white tiger

I am talking about frequency here, you have to have a some type of desire for worldly things to attract worldly things. With the explanation that small children are great at LOA that says every small child that is, "Satanically Abused", "Sacrificed", "Molested", "Beaten", "Burned", "Neglected" is solely responsible because he or she attracted it? Is that what you believe? I can't hold a baby or animal accountable for any of these terrible things that happen to it.

(11 Jan '12, 03:51) Wade Casaldi

those terrible things that you describe are because of this world and the free will of other that is not in alignement. so it is not the child that is responsible but the wicked one. the one not in alignement that do those terrible things. and what is the root of those terrible things is it not desire that is not align? if desire would be align with the rightenous of the just by faith in truth(over the ego) would anny of those terrible things exist?

(11 Jan '12, 11:14) white tiger

Then now you agree with me that children do not affect the law of attraction they are innocent. They have no desire or fear. They just are, and this is why it is better to have a millstone around your neck and cast into the sea than to harm a child, because the adult is responcible for attracting the child.

(11 Jan '12, 11:33) Wade Casaldi

wade in truth i tell you even some child in muddy water become tainted only when they will see that it is not the way. they will stand still and know that i am. and the water will become clear. experience and enjoy.

(11 Jan '12, 11:39) white tiger

We just disagree White Tiger, forget about it.

(11 Jan '12, 12:07) Wade Casaldi

yes at first they are innocent meaning the only desire they have is harmony for them self and for other. but they enter this world and not every one in this world seek that often the ego run them. are you able to understand every one? i understand your point of view do you understand mine?

(11 Jan '12, 12:45) white tiger
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maybe the law of attraction as we see it
be but a relative reality,
removed from nearing an absolute;
do we know that what we know really is,
do the life atoms of the animal
have less awareness of self-consciousness
or be it less controlled willpower


answered 11 Jan '12, 21:14

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