It seems that some people have gone to great pains and lengths to expose the "Illuminati", the "shady governments" and they are planning to do something about it.

More information here: (be forewarned that it might be a long read for some)

What do you think about this? Because according to Abraham they have always mentioned that the more you push against something, the more it becomes harder to push again.. I guess it would be interesting to see how all of this turns out.

And if they have been planning this for a long time, they must have also choosen a pretty good time to do this.. 2012 where people constantly harping on the end of the world.

asked 07 Apr '12, 21:41

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people are finaly waking up. it is about time. very good video. unity will win.

Again I tell you, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God."

The light shines in the darkness, but the darkness has not understood it.

(08 Apr '12, 05:05) white tiger

@kakaboo Think about this, the closest you can come to anything is being "against" it! We say we are against negative things, and we know when we include negative things in our focus, our energy, we manifest negative things.

Like attracts like, Bucko!

I don't like war. But I am not anti-war. I AM Pro-Peace! To me there is a massive difference.

(08 Apr '12, 07:04) Dollar Bill

Good question kakaboo. Great comment Dollar Bill :)

(08 Apr '12, 07:33) Eddie

Thank you, Eddie.

(11 Apr '12, 08:03) Dollar Bill
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If the Illuminati are as powerful as suggested, they can not be arrested. The only thing being arrested is your attention, your focus and your energy.


"Illuminatus!" Suggests that the Illuminati have started their own revolutionary groups, Dynamic Discordians, and the Erisian Liberation Front, (Roman and Greek names for the Goddess of Discord) as well as counter-revolutionary organizations that fight against the revolutionary groups, that supposedly fight against the Illuminati so they can keep track of the dissidents. Or maybe one of these groups are the real Illuminati and the Illuminati we see are just a smokescreen to protect the real rulers.

This is a circular mind game with no win.

But maybe that is what they want. Add this to the 'pile', THEY are teaching myna birds to say, "Here kitty, kitty, kitty" to further depress people by watching birds commit suicide.

Oh, puh-leeez!

Bottom line. If you want to create a world where the Illuminati are active, present and doing nasty things, and you enjoy that world, go for it! If you want to create a world where outside forces control you, go for it. If you want to struggle up the mountain, you have every right and ability to create that world.

I want a world of happiness, beauty, joy and fun. My world is there. See you at the Top! Whether you get there by climbing or the "Narrow Gate Helicopter" you will get there.


answered 08 Apr '12, 06:44

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Dollar Bill

edited 08 Apr '12, 07:14


Thank you my good, self-empowered, man :)

(08 Apr '12, 07:00) Eddie

well Dollar Bill it depends how you look at it. i find it good that they reveal the truth. it makes people wake up. sleeping time is over. the pyramid system will collapse. making people believe that they can become rich and making them work with manipulation is not a good thing in my book. did you ever see a building that can stay up with no fondation? the more they get rich on people back the more the pyramid is sinking. if they want to control and manipulate with the less people possible-

(10 Apr '12, 21:17) white tiger

send them in prison they will learn where the control was lacking. and use the fraud money to help the poor. problem solve. no more negativity. stay in the truth and you will find answer.

(10 Apr '12, 21:25) white tiger

WT read what you wrote. apply what you say to yourself and you may find your Truth. It works for me when I read what I wrote. We can only advise ourself. We can only write to ourself.

(11 Apr '12, 08:06) Dollar Bill

well dollar Bill that would apply to me if i was negative and not telling the truth. but it is the truth someone wanting to have control over other people to make him self rich as a lack of control of him self. and the fraud money would serve for the victim and the poor. from what i know i do not control bank gas economy. did i sell annything to anny of you here? or did i just share truth with you?

(14 Apr '12, 03:57) white tiger
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<<< yawn >>>

I did a lot of research on that site and Project Camelot a few years ago. After some time I realized (and felt) that there was too much negativity and unconsciousness coming from those sources. So I no longer visit them or value them as sources of the kinds of information I prefer, i.e. positive and self-empowering knowledge. Take a clue my friend... :)

Once you've looked into the idea of infinite probable realities, you'll realize that, yes, there are worlds which function based upon negativity. However, you do not have to buy into their particular vibrational frequency - by paying attention to them and believing in them - and so you will not experience them. Of course, if you still believe that there's only one version of reality, then you'll need to unravel that before realizing the idea of infinite realities...

Mirror Man Speaks on Clarity

By paying attention to and appreciating all of the good things already in your life, your vibrational frequency will increase. Only by raising your frequency will you begin to feel better.

You’ll feel better because you’ll be in alignment with your higher self. As you feel better you’ll have more clarity. And as you become clearer, you’ll no longer be attracted to any kind of negativity.

No amount of paying attention to negative stuff will serve to increase your vibration! The choice of what you pay attention to will always be yours. Are you ready to break the cycle?

You gotta love the synchronicity, I just received this from Abraham-Hicks:

"You don't have to work at being in the high vibration that is natural to you, because it is natural to you. But you do have to stop holding the thoughts that cause you to lower your vibration. It's a matter of no longer giving your attention to things that don't allow your cork to float or don't allow you to vibrate in harmony with who you really are."


answered 08 Apr '12, 07:31

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the inequity system made by men is the source of negativity. set things straigh in truth and love. and there will be no more problem. i agree with you Eddie that you most not stay negative. but you most not think that those things do not exist because you fool your self.

(10 Apr '12, 21:38) white tiger

@Eddie I agree. Once I thought that paying attention to negativity would help dispel negativity. But It only increases it. Once in my meditation/visualizations I took a mental pressure washer and "cleaned" the dark places, but they grew! Now I turn on a light and there are no dark places.

(11 Apr '12, 08:11) Dollar Bill

Thanks Eddie loving your answer :-)

(17 Mar '13, 18:20) Starlight
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remember that no one will save us, so if we are arresting these people it is good, but when other entities claim that they are managing this, be very careful. There is a channeleing group called the Galactic Federation of Light. Read my question here and please understand if we are arresting them it is because we want change, if we believe it is others, we take the power away from ourselves. Please read it all and look into links.

love and light ( wisdom )



answered 15 Apr '12, 17:38

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TReb Bor yit-NE

sucks no one votes on these old ones.

(17 Mar '13, 17:46) TReb Bor yit-NE

Lol, you know Rob , I've always understood that Sux , means not good , but also wonder where it originated from ;-)

(17 Mar '13, 18:41) Starlight

of evil taking over another evil in the name of goodness. The story never changes, just the names and faces.

(17 Mar '13, 18:50) CalonLan

@calon lan lol, yes brother, nice to see u again.

(17 Mar '13, 21:18) TReb Bor yit-NE

@ TReb Bor yit-NE: What sucks? I just read this old post and just gave you a numerically increasing vote, brother :o)

(24 Feb '14, 09:40) TGunn

@tgunn There u r my dear dear brother. Been while sense I been here. love u brother. n miss u

(11 Mar '14, 16:23) TReb Bor yit-NE
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Not all Illuminati are bad guys. Lets face it; some broke the silence to bring us "Your Wish Is Your Command."


answered 10 Apr '12, 21:29

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Wade Casaldi

edited 10 Apr '12, 21:30


Having a listen to this now Wade , thanks for the lead :-)

(17 Mar '13, 18:42) Starlight

I am going to throw something out there that is rather contradictory to all the "good" stuff we enjoy.

It is a big "What If?" (That I did not invent)

However, it is something to think about.

What if we are and have always been manipulated from the "other side" our entire existence by those who created us?

What if this moment that is spoken of, as the moment of transition and CHOICE is a moment where we get a small window of opportunity to choose to be free of this manipulation?

What if this manipulation "from the other side" has always been carried out through a designated "elite", whose job has always been to rule over humanity according to the wishes of our true creators?

What if all the structures of control such as the "Illuminati, The ruling class, Royal Blood, The chosen ones, the Enlightened masters, even the Gods are all instruments of control and conformity.

What if the very act of "believing" is the actual mechanism by which our desire is then channelled to "fit" within available mechanisms of expression?

What if believing in something or Dis-believing in something are both quite irrelevant because the individual's consciousness is fed the necessary data to support one or the other choice, always allowing one's expression to still be a defined within an existing matrix of choice.

What if this very thing called "choice" that we define in our consciousness always following and falling within existing expressions of physical experience is the very mechanism by which we are "contained" within an experience that is far below our true potential.

What if the idea that we create our reality with our consciousness is the truth and the trap?

The truth being that IT IS SO, and the trap being that our understanding of it has not freed us from constantly existing within our own inner conversation.

Therefore, it does not matter what we believe about the Illuminati, God, Religion, or following our Bliss, we still are trapped within our inner conversation of that which we believe.

What if the true freedom that is available in the window of opportunity exists in being free from this inner conversation?

What if it is not about what is the right thing to believe, but rather that "believing" is the veil of illusion?

What if every time we "make something of it" in response to "what do you make of this"? We willingly surround ourselves with more illusion that fulfills that desire to "make something of it?"

While the "IT" is within which we are forever contained, for "it" is the main "addiction" for our consciousness.

In addition, this addiction is all that it takes to keep us down here, in this place of human suffering.


answered 10 Apr '12, 23:08

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The Traveller

edited 10 Apr '12, 23:09

Wow, quite a few negative beliefs surfacing here. I'd always assumed that due to your awareness of the present moment, you'd moved beyond negative internal dialogue. After all, awareness of the action of one's mind is primary to realizing what's beyond it...

(10 Apr '12, 23:19) Eddie

It is negative only if it needs processing and it is processed that way.
I guess if it is juxtaposed against something labeled "positive", and that something happens to be the opposite of this, then this becomes negative.
Furthermore, it is only a problem for the individual who believes that one idea must be chosen over another because that individual is burdened to choose which they must hold on to.

(10 Apr '12, 23:52) The Traveller

Wow that was a whole lot of doom and gloom conspiracy there! Traveller I wish I could think of something to cheer you up. Life isn't that bad. Keep hanging in there. Things will get better, don't let all these conspiracies get to you...

(11 Apr '12, 02:32) Wade Casaldi

well the traveller like i said before stay in the truth solve the duality in you(that chatter is part of it) then belief is not neccesary. the duality is solved. once that is done you can surpasse the mind. a mind with no mind. aka the spirit.

(11 Apr '12, 04:00) white tiger

yea, for me the truth is Jesus saves, however I still have plenty of times when I can't let go of negative ,resentful thoughts- so it does feel like a tug of war in my head sometimes...think this, no think this that's just wrong lol......most often I feel good and joyful. Today I'm pulling to the resentment side and I could see the game of life being played on us as if we have not much choice at certain times. Otherwise I'd feeel peace,joy and love for all every minute.

(17 Mar '13, 23:51) clearheart

and how wonderful that once I expressed this here I fee better now, so did my prayers get answered by turning the tides in my favor? :)

(18 Mar '13, 01:17) clearheart
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The Illuminati - the Luciferian Soul Group Consciousness - has played a vital role in our evolution and development, both as Human Beings and the souls that incarnate as Human Beings. The Planetary Logos known as Yahweh would not allow his children, Human Beings, the conscious self-awareness and Free Will to know themselves (ourselves), much like parents who wish to maintain the innocence of their children by keeping their children ignorant of the greater world round them. The Council of Elders assigned the Lucifer Soul Group the task of offering conscious self-awareness and Free Will (polarity) to the human race, as the Lucifer Group is one of service to self. The Serpent in the Tree of Knowledge in the Garden of Eden is an analogy of The Illuminati (Lucifer).

The Illuminati would be a ruling Family over humanity for a contracted period of linear time, but would have to incarnate on Earth as 'humans' (even though they are not human) in order to so do. This is where the idea of 'Fallen Angels' comes from. Yahweh agreed to this; and, as Planetary Logos, Yahweh still had the right to dissuade his children from following the path of enlightenment, and has exercised this right via channeling certain humans and manifesting religion. Of course, the Illuminati - being self-serving - distorted and took control of this religion. Religion became religions. The 2012 date represents the ending of a cycle and the beginning of a new one. The Illuminati will continue to rule the 'Old Earth' until their karma has played out; which means - the souls incarnating as humans, who are not yet enlightened, will have to incarnate on the 'Old Earth' for another cycle.

In regard to Rob Gauthier's (TReb's) and CalonLan's statements - these are accurate. As Above, So Below. We have learned in the 3rd Density polarity through conscious self-awareness, Free Will and and the benefits of exercising discernment, enough to advance us to the next level of density and greater consciousness. In this re-ascending journey, we will experience many challenges in the like of Yahweh and Lucifer.

Claim your power and sovereignty. Not over others, but of yourself.


answered 24 Feb '14, 11:39

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Hello TGunn, it's a nice story and I'm sure there's some truth in it. However, I'd like to point out that when you say:

"The Illuminati would be a ruling Family over humanity for a contracted period of linear time, but would have to incarnate on Earth as 'humans' (even though they are not human) in order to so do." ...

(28 Feb '14, 03:52) Eddie

...Please understand that while we can speak of linear time, in truth all reality exists now, so whoever is born into this reality, by their very nature they ARE human. Of course our soul is not human, although it has many incarnations as many different kinds of beings, both physical and non-physical, all occurring simultaneously here and now. :)

(28 Feb '14, 03:53) Eddie

@ Eddie: Not so. What makes us human are our bloodlines, not just our organic appearance or the fact that we were born on this planet. Although incarnating in human form, the Luciferian Soul Group consists of 13 different bloodlines, none of which originated on the this planet. The Luciferian Soul Group keeps everything in The Family to maintain the purity of their bloodlines. One cannot join The Family; one is born into it.

(28 Feb '14, 18:41) TGunn

I say none of the 13 bloodlines originated from this planet, but this is not entirely accurate. The Illuminati families we know of -- the surface dwellers -- are of Earth lineage. They think they are the True Bloods (or Blue Bloods), but there is a faction of The Family that rules THEM, and this faction is not of this planet. It's a bit complicated. Surface Illuminati have no power other than the power they created for themselves, and we allowed. Because of this they seem powerful.

(11 Mar '14, 19:55) TGunn
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