I do not know if i have given it the right question title or not, so if anyone can make it better please do.

I have read a few question treads on this site and the basic idea most of them convey is to make a switch in the thinking. think positive uplifting thoughts and make feeling good your prominent goal ect.

This is what i was looking for when i reached IQ for the first time, i wanted to get back to my feeling laughing self again, i lost touch with that person few years back. I wanted to change, not for material things but because i feel so disconnected with who i hav become!!! thus i as guided here and read all these lovely answers to so many wonderful question, some of which i was asking myself. Thank heavens i got here!!! and the upside is i get all the bonuses for having a wonderful life, in terms of fulfiling desires as by product of being happy. :) yeahhyyyy

I need to get happy, I get it and I am starting to implement it, but i do not know how to deal with this situation. You know when you think, you have a thought and you are also simultaneously aware of having that thought - some call it observer. so when ever i 'try' to stear myself from negative or upsetting thought to a positive thought, i get the 'observer' telling me or asking me what am i trying to do? you know you are not actually happy, this happy thought is not actually happy, ou are deluding yourself....ect etc!

I have come to a point where i dont feel any emotion in my body, even when i smile i just feel my facial muscles moving, but i do not connect to the emotion in body. the only thing i feel at times (few) is sometimes a heavyness in abdomen region.

when i am thankful or grateful or truly appreciative of a situation or someone, i do not feel it in my body and it lasts only for few moments and i find myself unable to stretch it out.

Also, i am not trying to take a leap in happy thoughts either. e i am going for a walk and am just following the rythm of my feet hitting the sidewalk i see beautiful clouds or a beautiful house and i smile and aprretiate it (to myself) and i again get this 'observer' saying things like - do you really feel this? oh you are just trying to delude yourself...etc ect

I dont know if I am making any sense or if anyone ever had anything like this to happen to them. I am sorry if this is not as clear as it should be. But, if anyone of you get this please guide me as to what i should do. and please be kind (not tha nice folks here arent, its just i am new here and am already beating myself up!!!!)

Thanks for help :)

asked 12 Jul '12, 00:18

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If it feels like you're deluding yourself. Then you're deluding yourself.

If you would not feel anything at all, you would not feel the need to be happy either. So you must feel something negative or painful that actually makes you want to move towards the state of happiness.

If there are bombs dropping all around you, and you try not to think of it, or try to imagine you're on a sunny beach laying in warm sand. Then, unless, you take appropriate ACTION, you'll be just deluding yourself.

Negative thoughts and feelings are there for a REASON. Something must be causing them to surface again and again. The same go for your "doubter-like" observer's attitude who's questioning your attempts to be happy. But he's not really against you being happy, all he's doing is telling you "look, something's rotten here and you are turning your back on it instead of dealing with it". The observer in you, is not somebody else. It's you. So you yourself feel that you are deluding yourself.

Happiness is not building a bridge over a stinky river. Happiness is finding the cause of why the river stinks, fix it and cross crystal clear like river afterwards.

Your attempts to shift focus to positive thoughts is just like building that bridge. Causes and reasons for negative thoughts and feelings you already have within you will remain to stink and you will smell it when trying to walk on your bridge of positivity. These negative thoughts and feelings will resurface again and again and again in your life, unless you resolve to solve them and address them once and for all.

Don't look away from your dark thoughts, face them instead, look them in the eye. It's when we look at/into things we understand them. Not when we look away. And in the light of understanding our fear of them melts. And while it's important to know the demons of yours you are fighting against, you must also know the angels you are fighting for.

As the famous saying goes

"If you don't know what you stand for, you'll fall for anything"

Therefore, be very clear and certain of what you want and who do you want to be. This certainty will be your sword that will cut through all fears and doubts you ever had. It will lead you to their cause and destroy it. And when you free yourself of your fears, you'll become happy.


answered 12 Jul '12, 04:44

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edited 12 Jul '12, 04:51

@Calonlan-Nice answer.We do have to ask ourselves sometimes "why do I have to keep distracting myself from myself? " :)

(12 Jul '12, 09:48) Satori

Hi CalonLan, thank you so much taking out time to write the naswer for my question. its much appreciated. I was not trying to look away from my 'darkness' its only that in the moment when i truly felt good, my abserver would try to make me feel bad for trying to feel good. Just wanted to see if someone else had this as well. i have never been someone to put on a happy sticker on something bad. I would have not joined here if i werent ready to take responsibility and correct what has....

(14 Jul '12, 04:11) dreamersmiles

been wrong in terms of my view of myself. Thanks for your answer, gives me someting to ruminate over. :)

(14 Jul '12, 04:11) dreamersmiles
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From your question you could be experiencing what Eckhart Tolle calls a pain-body attack. That sounds really weird I know but if you are thinking positive thoughts and generally feeling good - especially as, from your description, you are attempting to feel good right NOW (present moment awareness) but then suddenly you start feeling negative - emotions start to well up inside you - then this could be what it is. I am unsure though as you say it is more of a mocking feeling.

The present moment awareness is the way to neutralise this negative energy. Basically you just have to let the negative feelings pass without judgment - don't whatever you do add to them with negative thoughts.

If you wanted to know more you could take a look at some stuff on the web about Eckhart Tolle and the pain body or if this really resonates with you, you could dive in with The Presence Process by Michael Brown. If it feels like you are being dragged down by negative feelings when you are mostly thinking positive thoughts then this could be a solution. On the other hand I could be completely wrong!

Just to say that you sound as if you are doing really well - not trying to take too big a leap, being happy in the moment.


answered 13 Jul '12, 12:28

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@Catherine-Well said:)

(13 Jul '12, 13:19) Satori

@Satori - thank you. I have been reading "Being our own Companion" - available on the Presence Portal as a download. It makes your printer steam a bit as it is over a hundred pages of dense text but boy is it worth it. You have probably read it - in which case please ignore but it is mind blowing stuff. I can't thank you enough for the initial recommendation.

(13 Jul '12, 13:47) Catherine

@Catherine-Actually no, I haven't read that.I will check it out thanks:).Your were obviously attracted/drawn to this process Catherine which is a good sign.I was just a go-between,thanks :)

(13 Jul '12, 13:54) Satori

Thanks Catherine, thanks for the wonderful answer. I have been so dissociated with my feelings that i could not say if this is what happening to me. I was sensitive to people around me and took everyone so seriously that it got very painful. so i guess i resorted to not feeling things, which caused more harm than good. thanks for the recommendations would like to get in depth when i have more time.

(14 Jul '12, 04:16) dreamersmiles
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Try Two Hands Touching whenever you want to feel happy, quiet your mind, stop hiccups, etc... You can combine it with affirmations, questions, visualizations, etc... depending on your wants/needs.

Press the palms of your hands together and close your eyes. Ask yourself quietly in your mind, "What do my hands feel like?" Without naming the feelings, feel the answer in your hands. Don't try to think or not think, just feel your hands. Any time this 'observer' says things that mock you, do THT. While doing THT, any time your mind wanders, ask again, "What do my hands feel like?"


answered 12 Jul '12, 10:03

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Fairy Princess


Thanks FP, i would try it. :)

(14 Jul '12, 04:17) dreamersmiles

Please read the book: "YOU" by Charles F. Haanel, on Psitek.net. All words and vibrations are recorded in the ether. Therefore, all thoughts and words go out into the Universe. The Universe is alive with intelligence. When a mental picture is formed in the brain, the rate of vibration corresponding to that picture is immediately awakened in the ether. Therefore, think good thoughts... Say "Cancel, cancel" to all negative vibrations... whenever you think them. Replace these thoughts with positive happy thoughts. "Success is woven from the threads of daily noble choices" MEK


answered 12 Jul '12, 16:08

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This is what I came up with too. I like "cancel" though better than my, "no not that."

(12 Jul '12, 16:14) Fairy Princess

MEK, thank you so much. I have been trying to see in my mind a STOP sign when i get negative thoughts. seems like i am looking at this sign a lot these days. hope to see it lesser and lesser with time :)

(14 Jul '12, 04:19) dreamersmiles

Dear Dreamersmiles; You are welcome... Saying "Cancel, Cancel" emits a particle/wave vibration that extends from your 'aura' upward, via your "antennae" into the universe. You are a true sending and receiving station for positive vibrations. I then replace any negative thought with "the opposite"; such as: I am happy, healthy and wealthy. Peace and Love, MEK

(14 Jul '12, 08:45) MEK
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Thank you Fairy Princess.... Since all vibrations, from speech, are composed of the particles and waves function... to say "Cancel, cancel" is very effective. Reference: "NOVA", Brian Greene; he explains particles and waves, quantum physics, on the television show, 'The Fabric of the Cosmos", very well. Also; You Tube, Brian Greene (Columbia University) has some very informative video's as well. Peace and Love (: MEK


answered 12 Jul '12, 21:44

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