The 21st December is only a week away and I think most IQers will be well aware of the significance of this date so don't want to dwell too much on that. Bashar has called it the tipping point when the collective moves from being slightly negative to being slightly more positive. Will this mean that it will be easier to maintain a high vibration?


asked 14 Dec '12, 11:02

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edited 19 Dec '12, 04:10

@Catherine - Wouldn't that be nice...Good question Catherine:)

(14 Dec '12, 11:33) Satori

@Catherine - Nice question...I too have been wondering about the vibrational "weather changes" that might occur on or after 12-21.

(14 Dec '12, 13:18) lozenge123

Excellent question, @Catherine. :)

(14 Dec '12, 21:53) Grace

@Grace Hi there - we've missed your vibe on IQ!

(15 Dec '12, 07:22) Catherine

@Catherine - Thank you! What a kind thing to say. :) I am happy, being here.

(15 Dec '12, 12:08) Grace

I for one certainly hope so...wouldn't that be fun if we all suddenly shifted to higher ,happier vibes all around the globe? :)

(16 Dec '12, 01:46) clearheart
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I don't think anyone (or any entity) really knows precisely what is going to happen, or how things will play out.

One thing I'm sure of though is that the actual date of December 21, 2012 is going to be an anti-climax, a non-event.

On the morning of December 22, there will be lots of worldwide media headlines laughing at the end-of-the-world believers when the world is still here :) And if I'm wrong about this and the world does actually end, no-one will be around to point out my mistake on IQ anyway :)

But seriously...I see that date of December 21, 2012, like this...


It's as though humanity's vibrational ball has been pushed up to the top of a very high hill. And, after that date, the ball at the top of the hill is going to be released to roll down the other side.

What happens to released rolling balls? ...they start slowly and gradually build up speed.

So I think it's the same with this date. We will start to see differences, perhaps even significant differences in vibrational levels affecting our own collective vibrational states, but I don't think we will see anything for a while, maybe years, until that vibrational ball has picked up some speed.


answered 14 Dec '12, 14:16

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edited 14 Dec '12, 14:16


@Stingray Very nice answer. I had a similar analogy of December 21st written out using the the scaling of a hill and the building up of speed as we traverse down the other side. My answer started to get a little long and drawn out and I had the instinct to open another window to IQ to see if there were any other answers since I started mine. Here was your nice short and sweet answer that summed up what I was thinking perfectly. Thank you for being my vibrational match in just the right moment:-)

(14 Dec '12, 14:55) Cory

@Stingray - Its all downhill from here then:). Thanks for simplifying this. Great answer.

(14 Dec '12, 16:37) Satori

@Stingray - Is there a paradox here? Do you think a person can really have an objective view of the collective? If a person is practising Vortex-Alignment then they are going to see positive changes anyway regardless of the rise in the collective vibration? Thanks :)

(14 Dec '12, 17:11) Satori

Love the Little 'Ole Rumplestiltskin pic, just had a childhood story flashback Thanks Stingray :-)

(14 Dec '12, 17:15) Starlight

@Stingray - so no "GET OUT OF JAIL FREE" card then - just keep doing the vibrational work, business as usual. Good answer. In a week we will all know! Thanks for your response.

(15 Dec '12, 07:21) Catherine

@Stingray - I'm not really sure what to make of this... For me, things speeding up has seemed to make life a bit more challenging, keeping me on my vibrational toes, not a time for "sloppy thinking". ;) (Boy I just learned that one the hard way - why didn't I listen to you? Lol! It's all good.) On the other hand, that tipping point you describe seems to mean we are going to get over a hump, or over the most instense or challenging phase of a transition. Could you please clarify that for me?

(15 Dec '12, 12:19) Grace

I agree it will be business as usual, however I love how we are looking at it as a wonderful day rather than something unwanted.

(16 Dec '12, 01:50) clearheart

@Cory - It's that good ol' IQ group mind at work again :)

(17 Dec '12, 15:00) Stingray

@Satori - "If a person is practising Vortex-Alignment then they are going to see positive changes anyway regardless of the rise in the collective vibration?" - Yes, Vortex Alignment overrides everything else...always :) I see this as a discussion about the evolution of the collective physical "game board" we are all playing on rather than our individual games. At any time, any "player" can get Vortex aligned and become a winner. Some of us just like the drama though and drag it out :)

(17 Dec '12, 15:04) Stingray

Downstream anyone????

(17 Dec '12, 15:06) MoonWillow

@Grace - The hill idea is an analogy and all analogies have limits otherwise they wouldn't be analogies but the real thing. The 9-D Pleiadians say that the game is changing. We have been playing a game of "limitation" and most of us have mastered that one pretty well :) We're now transitioning out of that but taking the results of our eons of explorations with us to create a "new" reality. If we knew what we were creating, we would probably already be bored. In short, I don't know :)

(17 Dec '12, 15:11) Stingray

@Stingray- Thank you for that wonderful explanation. At anytime, any "player" can get vortex aligned and become a Brilliant :)

(17 Dec '12, 15:23) Satori

@Stingray - Lol! Got it. Thank you. :)

(18 Dec '12, 23:25) Grace
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the shift from no longer
being off balance
will no doubt have many

reactions as some seers
have foretold
the vibrational pitch
may set some off


answered 15 Dec '12, 20:03

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@Fred I'm certainly finding the stronger energies challenging. Thanks for your answer.

(16 Dec '12, 03:58) Catherine

the time is always now. why are you waiting for a date? it all start from with in you.if you want to make the world a better place take a look at your self and make that change.

I will give you what no eye has seen, what no ear has heard, what no hand has touched, what has not arisen in the human heart."

"Have you found the beginning, then, that you are looking for the end? You see, the end will be where the beginning is.

Congratulations to the one who stands at the beginning: that one will know the end and will not taste death."

"Anyone here with two ears had better listen! There is light within a person of light, and it shines on the whole world. If it does not shine, it is dark."

"What you are looking forward to has come, but you don't know it."


answered 15 Dec '12, 21:17

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white tiger

@White Tiger Yes indeed - be what you want to be NOW. Very good point.

(16 Dec '12, 03:59) Catherine

LOVE THESE lol. These are some things about 2012, that treb describe.....

Why wait till December ? -

general question about 2012 -

as far as what I know about this is this. dec 21st is the peek of the ebnergy, after this, it decreases in the exact way it increased, from a 9 year before and 9 year after cycle. This means we are purging negative aspects in the front raising more quickly, and decreasing them more n more on the after side of the time... hope this helps.

love n light, rob


answered 17 Dec '12, 16:32

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TReb Bor yit-NE

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