Some background: Is it possible to live forever by manifesting that thought?

Following the question and answers in the above question, here are some facts for people who are lazy to go through that link:

  • It's possible for people to remain physically youthful despite their biological age. A person with the calendar age 50-70s may have the look of someone in his 20s-30s only, and that can be seen nowadays in a lot of places.
  • There are people out there living over the ages of 100s or even in the 200-300s if someone like Bashar is to be believed.
  • It may actually be possible to live forever just by manifesting that thought.

This leads us to another curious question : If all of the above is possible, shouldn't it be possible for an infant or a kid to remain in his physical form forever? Meaning a baby remains as a baby forever, or a child in his 10s remain as a child forever. After all, nowadays kids and children seem to be mature a lot faster even at a young age (some of them even can think like adults when they are only 10 years now, I think you know what I mean) compared to in the past.

Or, why is it not possible for an infant or a kid to remain in his physical form forever?

asked 31 Jan '15, 03:58

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I've wondered about similar things @kakaboo. Of the existence of a limit on manifestations (survive in space without suits, fly, etc).

For example Abraham has said that people could regrow limbs easily but on the other hand has said that just because you're in the vortex doesn't mean that drinking a bottle of bleach won't kill you. That being in the vortex will simply keep you away from situations like that.

That's going to be one of my questions if I'm ever in the hotseat hehe.

(31 Jan '15, 17:21) Kriegerd

@Kriegerd I think this question is not really about manifesting the impossible but rather can a kid or child be able to perform extreme manifestations while they are still not adults ?

(31 Jan '15, 17:59) kakaboo

@kakaboo you wanted to ask if a little child could learn to meditate on is own? of course did you forget(The person old in days won't hesitate to ask a little child seven days old about the place of life, and that person will live.) do you find it disturbing that some kids can do some thing that even old man never got to do?

(03 Feb '15, 08:24) white tiger

if you want the truth; there is no spoon, you need to focus on the reflection from with in, that is when you will really start to know your self. before getting there you will see that there is many things to solve in your self. clean the inside of the cup. it as just begun. like it said in this movie.

(03 Feb '15, 09:05) white tiger

And if we take this further, can we choose to have never been born? I don't remember choosing to be born let alone grow up although some will say that I did!

(05 Feb '15, 18:57) Inner Beauty

@Inner Beauty I think that's a completely different question. Though Bashar and Abraham both says that we did the choosing on some level to come to this physical world to play "The game". Even if one does not agree with their teachings, but agree that we are all One, then it still makes sense that we did chose to be born

(05 Feb '15, 20:23) kakaboo
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all form is finite as well
as of purposeful design,
first being born, then matures
and with /in time decays


answered 01 Feb '15, 16:40

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(05 Feb '15, 18:58) Inner Beauty

there is nothing left for the soul to learn and the urge to move on cannot be done with corporal form. take care with what the soul is fed

(06 Feb '15, 17:58) fred

shouldn't it be possible for an infant or a kid to remain in his physical form forever?

In theory, it should be possible. In practice, I think it's unlikely.

The requirements for indefinite physical existence are (as outlined in Is it possible to live forever, by manifesting that thought?) :

  • Launch a constant stream of new desires

  • Consciously release resistance

While young children are naturally good at releasing resistance (because they still remember what alignment with Source feels like), I think it's the first requirement ("Launch a constant stream of new desires") that they are going to struggle with.

A fresh newly-emerged-from-Source child starts without much physical resistance because it hasn't "banged around in the contrast" long enough to sharpen up its physical focus and decide what it likes or doesn't like - a definite requirement for launching desires, don't you think? :)

It's probably going to take some years of physical life experience to build up to having some reasonably powerful desires, and probably even more years to build up to a constant stream of new desires.

And the irony is, by then, they'll have probably forgotten how to "Consciously release resistance" and will end up posting questions on Inward Quest :)

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The other reason I think it's unlikely that a child would remain in that form forever is - and this is perhaps the main overriding reason - it simply wouldn't want to :)

If you're being honest with yourself, would you rather remain forever as a young man or a young child? Generally speaking, children aren't allowed to drive, go to many movies, get involved in intimate relationships, have a career, buy alcohol, commit identity theft etc. etc...the list goes on and on :)

Most children I've known (including me) couldn't wait to grow up quickly enough to get some adult-like I'm not convinced that even a mature child would want to remain as a child :)


answered 03 Feb '15, 18:36

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Well when I was young I looked forward to growing up. But when I'm a young man sometimes I wish that I could be a child again

(04 Feb '15, 02:58) kakaboo

It took you time to learn that your independence is in you and not outside of you. we are all children because we are still learning. of course if you judge someone as a child because of the physical it is something else, what will you do when you meet someone that looks like a child physically but is old in ages? do you think it does not exist? I have seen some that look like 7 or 8 year old that where near 20 of ages. it is a physical growth problem. Hypothyroidism is a condition in which -

(05 Feb '15, 07:22) white tiger

the thyroid gland fails to make enough thyroid hormone, which is essential for normal bone growth. what would you say to see that kids drive, go to many movies, get involved in intimate relationships, have a career, buy alcohol, commit identity theft etc. etc...the list goes on and on :) he might be physically as a kids but can be the same age as you. also where do you find independence in this world we are all interdependent. you will ask question or stuff from people and they will do the-

(05 Feb '15, 07:28) white tiger

same. even the government will ask you tax money the town make their law and you will have to refer to the town before making change to your own property. you pay for service so they are dependent on you and you are dependent on them to render that service. the reel peace the reel independence you shall find inside you.

(05 Feb '15, 07:31) white tiger
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I would say if you truly know your self at a young age then yes you will stay the same. since the outside will not affect you as much, compare to someone that does not know himself and try all is life to find him self on the outside and trying to be like by every one to the detriment of himself.

one should know thyself.

as for the physical it is still under the law of nature. but if you are less stress and more calm there is some physical benefit to it and you should live longer.

Benefits of Meditation:

The benefits of meditation are manifold because it can reverse your stress response, thereby shielding you from the effects of chronic stress. When practicing meditation, your heart rate and breathing slow down, your blood pressure normalizes, you use oxygen more efficiently, and you sweat less. Your adrenal glands produce less cortisol, your mind ages at a slower rate, and your immune function improves. Your mind also clears and your creativity increases. People who meditate regularly find it easier to give up life-damaging habits like smoking, drinking and drugs. Meditation research is still new, but promising.


answered 31 Jan '15, 09:50

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white tiger

@white tiger not sure why u brought up meditation here? experience and enjoy

(31 Jan '15, 18:00) kakaboo

@kakaboo simple because your inside affect your outside. so first clean your inside and your outside will be clean also. stress kill you. can you stop stress outside of you? since many thing are not your choice and many people make error, you will find people that stress you. so where can you deal with stress so that your physical body stay youthful longer? will you defeat your inner demons? or will you let your inner demons do more of the same thing outside that you do not like?

(01 Feb '15, 07:26) white tiger

will you let your demons lead you where you do not want to go? and make choice from the inside towards the outside that you do not like?

(01 Feb '15, 07:29) white tiger

@white tiger your comment would make sense if I was asking about how to stay youthful despite my age. But I'm not exactly asking that, I'm asking whether an infant is able to do such a thing? How would an infant know how to meditate?

(01 Feb '15, 07:44) kakaboo

@kakaboo I put a comment upstair under your question. any how infant would learn to meditate when they find no answer in the outside world. that is when they seek the kingdom of god. it is written:If you do not fast from the world, you will not find the (Father's) kingdom. If you do not observe the sabbath as a sabbath you will not see the Father."

(03 Feb '15, 08:36) white tiger

everything is written in the bible: Jesus was lead by the spirit in the desert and meditated 40 days. it talk about it in the gospel of Thomas. if you look at Buddha he also learned by him self because something was missing and not ok in is life. there is many example, all the greatest teacher of meditation learned by them self.

(03 Feb '15, 08:44) white tiger
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