Everyone has a program or special technique/theory, that they insist will enable them, with spiritual power, to successfully achieve their fondest dreams and goals.

Do they all work...? Do any of them work...? Which one works best...? Is there ONE way to achieve all that we want and need in life that really works...? If so, can you offer any proof of that method's success?

I can't offer you any help this time...

asked 10 Jan '11, 16:21

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The Prophet

Spiritual growth is difficult because surrender is difficult for most people. The ego doesn't want to let go.


answered 10 Jan '11, 18:27

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I like this simpler, common-sense solution... The effort to sublimate the ego is raised from a preference to a priority.

(11 Jan '11, 15:26) The Prophet

It is as difficult as you want it to be.

You already have all of your answers.

They all work.

None of them work.

Just let go.....

And when you let go, no proof is needed.


answered 10 Jan '11, 16:36

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jim 10

edited 10 Jan '11, 16:47

It is difficult as long as the individual believes that there is a destination.

Remember, the idea is growth.

In a system of duality the pendulum cannot stay suspended at one end of its swing.

It can however, come to a near rest by being equally aware of the existence and consequence of both sides of the swing.

This would be the natural consequence of the "growth" in question.

But swing, it must, for without it there is no expansion or existence.


answered 10 Jan '11, 17:32

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The Traveller

Yes, a lot changed for me when I realized there was NO destination. I stopped, looked and saw that I was already 'there' ...I mean HERE :)

(10 Jan '11, 17:36) jim 10

A lot of talk about pendulums on this site these days :)

(10 Jan '11, 18:29) Stingray

my pendulum said Oregon will win, but it looks bad at halftime!

(11 Jan '11, 03:22) Tom

@Neil - When you're living life the way you intended, it is one long party time so I think we've got the right attitude here. Profound (and annoying enough) answer for you? ;)

(12 Jan '11, 10:25) Stingray

That's an interesting strategy Stingray... I've always been curious if being "annoying" would win customers and friends... Who put you on to the "party time" angle -- I'm curious to know how it works for you in the spiritual context.... Does it make you feel good?

(12 Jan '11, 12:50) The Prophet
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We make it difficult because part of our being is unwilling to let go of old conditioning even though it may not be serving us anymore - there is an element of comfort in what's familiar.

*I don't think that there is "ONE" way to achieve all that we want or that there's "ONE" spiritual program that works for everyone.

We're all individual parts of the same Oneness and because of that idividuality what works for each of us will be different, because although our journeys may be similar, they are all unique. So, it is up to each one of us to discern what works for us. What resonates with each of us may be different - none right or wrong,only what is needed at the moment.

Because we are always growing and expanding, different things will work at different times along the journey.

As for offering proof, I think "being the change" that Gandhi so rightly referred to is the only proof needed.


answered 10 Jan '11, 18:54

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