When we talk about creating certain realities, where should we draw the line?

What can we learn from him?

He is doing things that feel right to him and so he continues to do so.

Also, he is just in the flow and allowing of his life, he is making no apologies and is doing what he thinks is right for him.

asked 02 Mar '11, 21:15

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edited 03 Mar '11, 16:58

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For those of us who don't follow the news, I'm presuming this question is about this interview? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h5aSa4tmVNM

(03 Mar '11, 18:38) Stingray
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Nice question, infact I wanted to ask kinda the same today. ;-)

Mr Sheen is becoming quite a meme, and I believe there are two sides to this. I'm not entirely informed about his background, so I'm making some assumptions which could as well serve as a generalization about people behaving in a similar way.

The "negative" side

If Mr Sheen really depends on alcohol, cocaine or other drugs to be able to express himself in this "grandeur" way, and should he (still) cause real harm to others, then he is definitely not in "The Vortex". It would be another story then why some of us are addicted and depend on bad habits to make us feel better, and what we could do about it.

The "positive" side

Most of his messages could be right from a self-empowerment training:

"The only thing I’m addicted to right now is winning."

"I have a disease? Bullshit. I cured it with my brain."

Maybe he's been lurking on Inward Quest too much as well. ;-) It seems it isn't quite fashionable in society today to express such things in public, which is kinda sad. People who attack him because they feel affected by such words should look at their own issues first. Often we're still supposed to play victims. Or, in the master's own words:

"As kids we're not taught how to deal with success; we're taught how to deal with failure. If at first you don't succeed, try, try again. If at first you succeed, then what?"

Ok, some 4chan mixes in too with some of his statements:

"I’m tired of pretending I’m not a total bitchin’ rock star from Mars."

"I am on a drug, it's called Charlie Sheen. It's not available because if you try it you will die. Your face will melt off and your children will weep over your exploded body."

Most of us surely can look behind the facade here though and see that they are just exaggerated versions of the same self-empowerment lines, adapted to the internet age. He merely dares to play out in public what the "children of the internet" do every day and night more or less hidden in obscure forums. That's what causes the recent hype I guess, he's struck a nerve here.


I think everyone has to find their own balance between self-realization and a sense of empathy. If we don't realize ourselves and live who we really are, we'll be not "winning" and become victims. If our empathy and sense for the larger whole gets lost, and everyone goes over dead bodies, then the world will end in chaos.

Throughout history, people did not find this balance and/or were denied the ability to do so, thus strict and often oppressive rules were needed. Modern theory of the state was born, manifested and took responsibility and power away from us, but that's another story.

But now times are changing, old governmental power structures crumble, and maybe Mr Sheen's role is to remind us of our opportunity to return to our innate power and balance.


answered 03 Mar '11, 15:02

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nice observations, thanks.

(12 Mar '11, 00:28) Back2Basics

Mr. Sheen has unfortunately caught the eye of the world with his behavior. I would hate it if I was struggling with an alcohol problem, for example, and everything I do wrong made headlines. Can you imagine how awful that would be??? I feel deeply for him, and I think we should all be praying for him, instead of judging him. He needs our compassion and a lot of privacy. I pray he gets what he needs.

Blessings, Jai


answered 02 Mar '11, 22:47

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is he struggling or enjoying?

(03 Mar '11, 00:45) Back2Basics

@ B2B both just like me and you

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