men create every thing!example: money and system! and men creation are suppose to serve him!in this world some people work all the time and they see no end to it! other almost not work and are rich! some other are poor! some have no work! could men create a system more in balence with no crisis! where every one work! where people don't have to work all week! where every one basic needs are meet! and if you want more you could work more! so anny one have idee how to create a world in balence! and how to slowly make the shift from the system we have created now to the new system that will be more in balence! lets see the iq at work here!waiting for your spark to light up the fire!

asked 04 May '11, 15:47

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white tiger

edited 05 May '11, 03:38

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In those famous words of Gandhi again... "Be the change, you want to see" :)

(05 May '11, 18:16) Michaela

i am michela! remove ignorance and limit!

(05 May '11, 20:37) white tiger
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At the dawn of man everything was in balance. Man evolved and somewhere a seed was planted. Some might call it the Adam and Eve story, either way a system was created by man to compete. Man started to hoard resources, tribalize, nationalize and segregate. Classes, cultures and societies filled the earth. Man unbalanced the rhythm of the earth.

Competition has led to violence and wars and death. When al of the resources for every human are available, the strong took advantage of the weak and created further imbalance.

A resource based economy can recreate our outdated systems.

When the Royals spend 70 million on a wedding while there know the story

End mans greed and balance will follow

This story can summarize how it began

monkey see.....

If you start with a cage containing five monkeys and inside the cage, hang a banana on a string from the top and then you place a set of stairs under the banana, before long a monkey will go to the stairs and climb toward the banana.

As soon as he touches the stairs, you spray all the other monkeys with cold water. After a while another monkey makes an attempt with same result ... all the other monkeys are sprayed with cold water. Pretty soon when another monkey tries to climb the stairs, the other monkeys will try to prevent it.

Now, put the cold water away. Remove one monkey from the cage and replace it with a new one. The new monkey sees the banana and attempts to climb the stairs. To his shock, all of the other monkeys beat the crap out of him. After another attempt and attack, he knows that if he tries to climb the stairs he will be assaulted.

Next, remove another of the original five monkeys, replacing it with a new one. The newcomer goes to the stairs and is attacked.The previous newcomer takes part in the punishment... with enthusiasm.

Then, replace a third original monkey with a new one, followed by a fourth, then the fifth. Every time the newest monkey takes to the stairs he is attacked. Most of the monkeys that are beating him up have no idea why they were not permitted to climb the stairs. Neither do they know why they are participating in the beating of the newest monkey.

Finally, having replaced all of the original monkeys, none of the remaining monkeys will have ever been sprayed with cold water. Nevertheless, none of the monkeys will try to climb the stairway for the banana.

Why, you ask? Because in their minds...that is the way it has always been!


answered 05 May '11, 08:13

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Thats a great analogy Mike. Ive read it and it absolutely makes sense.Were all a little like the monkeys,somehow "trapped" into a chain we cant remember the start of.Brilliant.

(05 May '11, 08:52) Monty Riviera

i liked the story mike and you understand what i am talking about!so how do we make the shift from this present system to a more balence system? in your vision how can we create a better system? and get rid of those chain and limit? we create reality! so create alternative and and shift to move on!

(05 May '11, 13:53) white tiger

many of us are faced with limit and thing created that should change we see it every day but most don't see it or accept it!

(05 May '11, 13:57) white tiger

ignorance is in there mind!

(05 May '11, 15:24) white tiger

and what your monkey story is missing is the monkey who invented the first cage and enslaved is brother! and started to have fun playing with them with out knowing what he is doing out of is own ignorance!so the patern most be change!to change this reality!

(05 May '11, 15:35) white tiger

only way to change the patern is to remove ignorance!

(05 May '11, 15:40) white tiger
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When things are in perfect balance everything is still, if I have a set of scales and both sides are in balance then nothing happens. Now if I take that same set of scales and add a little more to one side the one side goes down and the other side goes up, now if I add much more the one side drops down fast and the other raises fast.

It is imbalance that creates motion, even the electric motor needs imbalance to run, the constant switch from positive to negative turns the motor. It is imbalance that creates success, if it was not for people that had more no-one would bother trying to have more. No one would have heroes that are role models to look up to and become like.

If everyone won the race who would bother competing. If I knew I would win too just as much as the one that has been training hard and running very fast just by showing up I would win too, why would I bother training like the other guy? For that matter why would the other guy bother training when he knows we would both win just the same no matter how much he applies himself.

Equality breeds stagnation, laziness, boredom, reassignment into nothing because there is nothing to strive for. How much fun would Tug-Of-War be if both side would always win, would you enjoy playing it that way?

This is how to change the system, I believe in this party strongly vote TVP in 2012


answered 05 May '11, 04:05

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na i think equality would make thing progress faster every one could benifit from it!not just a fee elite or rich people!imagine working half what you are working now with the same pay!it would leave you time to do other stuff fixing the house project hobby sharing time with the famely! no more crook why steal if you don't need anny thing!

(05 May '11, 04:13) white tiger

less stress! less sickness!less work accident!no more poor because the time that now you don't work the poor could work!rich people would not need body guard because they would almost be like the rest of us!

(05 May '11, 04:16) white tiger

men would not suffer from the system anny more because the system would work for men and not the other way around!

(05 May '11, 04:17) white tiger

equality brings team work not stagnation! what is more important to you getting a carot at the end or having achive something great working with other!

(05 May '11, 04:21) white tiger

the carot does not work and the crops does not work! people now needs flexible time respect and a clap when they do something good!

(05 May '11, 04:22) white tiger

in balence no more elite and poor! how many elite move and how many poor! and tell me that balence where all those poor could move would bring stagnation i don't thing so!

(05 May '11, 04:25) white tiger

what turn the motor is 2 of the same magnetic side face to face (2 positive or 2 negative) opposite attrac each other nad nothing movewhen stuck!and not a positive and a negative!

(05 May '11, 04:28) white tiger

magnetic field causes like poles to repel and opposites to attract.

(05 May '11, 04:38) white tiger

in a motor you have always magnetic field of the same polarity++ or -- repulsing each other to create the rotation! when you put polarity +-it attract and stop! try it with a magnet you will see!

(05 May '11, 04:44) white tiger

it is not because a world is balence that there is no competition! you could still train in your skill to be the best!we could still have sports!but is it because you are elite that you can sit on your ass with a big salary! when poor are doing there best each day to survive!some have enuff money on this earth to pay the electricity for every one on the planet for many year! so why do we still have poor? with all that money they are not able to make compagny to make those people work? and why does the middle class work all week? and never have enuff because the price are always going?

(05 May '11, 04:58) white tiger

men creation are doing that to men creating poor and people that work all week!and some other so rich that they will need more then 1 life to spend it all! its like the slave building the pyramid!the majority under the minority! the chain now are the tax and the price off things always going up so the rich make more profit! but all these things are men made!

(05 May '11, 05:05) white tiger

as for tug of war when i was playing that i was on one side and 10 on the other side and i was winning!smile

(05 May '11, 05:38) white tiger

as for the scale put a boat on the water it is in perfect balence sink one side and try to make it move! smile

(05 May '11, 05:45) white tiger

I think your being motivated by a good thing WT.You want equality and fairness in all things.This is good and proper. Will it happen in this world, i think not. I wish it were so WT but it isnt. Some will always use spiritual laws,and physical ones to better effect than others.There will always be differing levels and diversities of prosperity,because theres always been such a diversity and levels of humanity. But i do wish things were a little more evenly spread out,i really do WT.And fair play to anyone who helps his fellow man out.

(05 May '11, 08:39) Monty Riviera

White Tiger please look up AC current and the electric motor. AC current by the way means Alternating Current. It switches constantly + - + - over and over again. Look up Tesla, what an amazing man he was. Now I will tell you something that is coming in 2012 even the poor will be rich this will be because government will be cut to defense only budget. Look up Prime Law and the Twelve Visions Party. I know I am tired of being poor myself too.

(05 May '11, 16:46) Wade Casaldi

wade look at magnetism for electric motor! -face- to turn the motor or +face+ to turn the motor!when -face+ it attrack and do not cause movement! it is not current that cause magnetic field but role of wire that current pass through it! and you can convert magnetic to electricity(wire that pass through magnetic field) and electricity to magnetic!(electricity that pass in roll of wire)

(05 May '11, 19:41) white tiger

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(05 May '11, 20:13) white tiger

A post on the bottom of the glass chamber protrudes through a hole in the center of the bar and keeps it positioned correctly. The bar will stay suspended and rotating in a horizontal plane because of the interacting forces of two magnets at its ends and four magnets attached to the walls of the chamber, all with the same pole facing inside. Also, a magnet at the base of the glass chamber repels the magnetic underside of the rotating bar and helps it levitate.

(05 May '11, 20:15) white tiger

perpetual motion is possible using magnet! and you can use the magnetic field to make electricity passing a wire in the magnetic field!

(05 May '11, 20:19) white tiger

call me crazy! smile

(05 May '11, 20:27) white tiger

i have add that idee 20 year ago and i am not a elite or scholar!i am more self learning and i think out of the box!

(05 May '11, 20:42) white tiger

I like the perpetual motion article. The more I see of your comments the more I think we are actually talking about the same thing from two perspectives, like one seeing the tail of a coin the other the head but both are right. For example I would say it is imbalance that we can pedal a bicycle because one side has to have the weight of the body and mussels pushing the other side has to release weight and pressure. While I call that imbalance it could also be called balance similar to yin and yang not equal weight balance but uneven weight balance.

(06 May '11, 03:38) Wade Casaldi

Wade, I think you are right. I think of the story of the blind men who are feeling the elephant. One feels the trunk, and says, "An elephant is like a snake." One feels the leg, and says, "The elephant is like a tree trunk." Another feels a large ear, and says, "The elephant is like a soft cloth." You are both seeing the whole-one of you is ying, and the other is yang. But you are both describing an elephant!!! LOL! Jai

(06 May '11, 03:54) Jaianniah

well wade i would say that you need balence to ride bicycle other wise you fall in a ditch! and one side or the other is just the other side doing the opposite to acquire the balence! as for the coin i see it as 3 face just like the yin and yang!

(07 May '11, 09:10) white tiger

3 face the coin as a ring around it! so does the yin yang! the one on the bicycle as 2 side doing the opposite in perfect synch! and he holds the balence if is balence is very good he can even ride the bicycle with out is hand just shifting is weigth from one side to the other!

(07 May '11, 09:26) white tiger

jai one open is eye and see the elephant from every angles! smile!

(07 May '11, 09:29) white tiger

The reason why we keep balance on a bicycle is the gyroscope effect motion creates balance and motion comes from the constant shifting of weight from where it is to where it will be next the positive and negative back and forth again this is because of imbalance. It is because of this imbalance that balance takes effort this effort to keep balance creates motion in other words progress. I'll quote you "Just shifting weight from one side to the other" That is the constant imbalance I am talking about, you must constantly shift = motion and balance.

(07 May '11, 17:29) Wade Casaldi

We'll never agree on this, it is the constant imbalance and attempt to keep balance in this conversation that has kept this going so long. But I bet you will disagree with that too. Sorry we could not come to a balanced agreement. Maybe we have been in balance by our disagreements?

(07 May '11, 17:37) Wade Casaldi

Is it a balance of disagreement, or a stalemate???Hmmm...I think we have anew problem! LOL Jai

(07 May '11, 18:11) Jaianniah

wade someone in constant imbalence would always fall! if you are able to drive the bike with out the handles you have a very good balence!

(11 May '11, 18:18) white tiger

that is what i was talking about by shifting weigth to drive it with out the handles! i can even tell you that you don't need to apply anny force on each side to keep balence as long as it is moving!

(11 May '11, 18:25) white tiger

Okay White Tiger then why do you have to keep your balance if you have your balance? You would say it is obviously not because of imbalance so it has to be something else some other reason?

(12 May '11, 07:26) Wade Casaldi
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Im not sure what you mean by inbalance WT.

If its a world that has no inequality or poverty then i dont think we can,or rather we could but were not.

As far as poverty is concerned we will allways have it,according to Jesus that is.He did prophesy this very clearly.

Of course as far as all of us individuals are concerned we will all eventually make it,we will wake up and realise who we are.

And of course we can create our own small microcosm that is as we want it.



answered 04 May '11, 17:50

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yes monty people have to leave ignorance and limit behind and see that they have the power to create the perfect world! the process start individually but eventually we need to unify and all work toward that goal! did you see the news in canada the orange wave people want change its time to solve the problem and change what is not working well! elitis say that the people in the orange wave are not qualified lack experiance and knowledge! well knowledge and experiance you can acquire! as for elitiss they are stuck in there position and nothing change! so we will see what comes out of it!

(04 May '11, 18:05) white tiger

look at egypt this year people have unified and change as come i think people are slowly starting to wake up!

(04 May '11, 18:07) white tiger

the only thing men do not have control over is nature! all the rest is men made! so yes we could create a better world and solve all problem if the will to do it is there! we are creator and the only limit is the limit we imposse on us and other!

(04 May '11, 18:10) white tiger

is imbalence the lack of balence i may have made a gramatical error english is not my first language! correct it if so!

(04 May '11, 18:17) white tiger

lack of balance : the state of being out of equilibrium or out of proportion <racial imbalance="" in="" schools="">. it seams to be right!

(04 May '11, 18:19) white tiger

as for jesus i think he wanted to do exactely that!make people wake up remove ignorance and limit!did he not say:Jesus replied, "I tell you the truth, if you have faith and do not doubt, not only can you do what was done to the fig tree, but also you can say to this mountain, 'Go, throw yourself into the sea,' and it will be done.

(04 May '11, 18:27) white tiger

And He said to them, "Because of the littleness of your faith; for truly I say to you, if you have faith the size of a mustard seed, you will say to this mountain, 'Move from here to there,' and it will move; and nothing will be impossible to you

(04 May '11, 18:29) white tiger

if jesus add told the man in is time: that the son of man would put is feet on the moon and say a small step for man and a big step for humanity!would they have believe him? they would have said he is crazy no one can jump that high!

(04 May '11, 18:35) white tiger
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The world is in balance RIGHT NOW, it is impossible for it not to be. The laws of physics say so: for every action there is an equal and opposite reaction. The symbol of the tai-chi shows it: inside every positive there exists negative and inside every negative exists positive.

"Therefore let thy mental Equilibrium be above disturbance by material events" -Liber Librae


answered 04 May '11, 18:34

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Hu Re

well i say that the balence is not perfect yet! and i will ask one question to you to prove it is every man equal? that means no poor and no rich!

(04 May '11, 18:40) white tiger

how do you see balence on a scale from the vertical view or from the horizontal view? rich top poor bothum is the scale balence?

(04 May '11, 19:00) white tiger

another thing about those that see it this way in truth the one that as more is not at the top but at the bothum on the scale play with a scale and you will see!They who serve you most, you must mark as your chief ones. I am the chief servant myself; for the Son of man came not to be served by others, and honored thus, but he came to serve others, even to the extent of giving his life in their service.

(04 May '11, 19:14) white tiger

as for the yin yang symbol when yin and yang are equal and unified they form a whole!In Taoist philosophy, yin and yang (☯) arise together from an initial quiescence or emptiness (wuji, sometimes symbolized by an empty circle), and continue moving in tandem until quiescence is reached again.3.The action of bringing something to rest or making it quiescent; the action of coming to rest or to a quiescent state

(04 May '11, 20:17) white tiger

Yes, the "imbalances" are parts of the whole, the whole is always balanced in some way, even as it changes. The world exists in a dynamic balance just like how a glass of water is constantly changing: H20 with OH- and H+ all moving in and out of each other. Sometimes there's more OH- and other times more H+ and sometimes, for a second, pure H2O.

(07 May '11, 01:25) Hu Re

As per your first question in this feed "Is every man equal?" I say no, every man is unique. Think about your body... if every cell was composed of the same thing and performed the same function your body WOULD NOT WORK!

(07 May '11, 01:39) Hu Re

hu re when you are born do you have something that another one as not? the answer is no! you have 2 arm 2 legs 1 head and 1 body and 1 sex the spirit and the soul! as for difference yes there can be some at different level! colors skin hair eyes type of sex! difference in the number of experiance of the soul and the karma that you have! and yes you are unique but equal!

(16 May '11, 07:46) white tiger
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