Dear all,

Recently I made the decision that I was only going to accept offers of work that I felt passionate and enthusiastic about. This decision came only after years of taking on unpleasant tasks due to the false premise that I thought I needed to take on any opportunity that came my way for the sake of eventual success. That former approach wasted my energy and I decided to be done with it, relying instead on my emotional guidance system.

When I made this decision, I felt great about it, and told a spiritually minded friend about it. He supported me in this new approach, and I was filled with a renewed feeling of vigor, energy, and freedom.

The very next day, a colleague emailed me about a business venture that we had been involved in, but that I had not heard about for some time. This colleague asked me to take on an unpleasant task, doing someone else's time consuming drudgery, for the carrot stick prize of eventual profits. I told him thanks, but no thanks...I wasn't interested. I felt great about matching my actions to my decision, and thought the matter was done.

The next day he emailed me again, and this time tried to get me to reconsider. He also played upon my sense of responsibility and obligation, which felt slightly manipulative. We have mutual business partners and friends, who could be informed of a different version of this situation, so I do not feel comfortable being as blunt as I would like to be with him. But I still held firm in my decision. Nevertheless, this last experience left an unpleasant taste in my mouth. I immediately countered with EFT and a focus block.

My question is, why did this happen? Could be an amazing coincidence, but I really don't believe in coincidences any more :)

Rather, it seems likely that my decision was some sort of trigger for this event. I wondered if this was LOA giving me a chance to reenact my decision through action, but why did it repeat until it became unpleasant, when I had only felt good about it up until then?

A year ago, I might have thought the Universe was "testing me", but based on my new understanding of things, I really don't beleive in that sort of thing anymore.

Does anyone know what is going on? Is this something related to clattering? Thanks.

asked 04 Aug '12, 01:08

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edited 04 Aug '12, 01:52

Yes, it does sound like a clattering-type experience.

But it doesn't sound like anything to be concerned about to me. It seems like par for the course for a vibrational change of this nature. The previous belief you held regarding taking on unpleasant tasks is being forced to operate beyond its limits (because of your new deliberateness about it) and you are still feeling the effects of that increased focus as a result of that decision...and will continue to do so until your new belief becomes habitual.

The fact that you can now clearly feel the manipulation of another, whereas before it may have gone unnoticed, does suggest that a vibrational change in attitude is definitely on the cards.

Another way of looking at this is Bashar's idea of "The Test" that occcurs when the vibrational status quo is altered.

I also don't believe in coincidences so when an experience like this catches your attention, I would also give it some consideration (as you have done) to analyze what's behind it. I've personally learned alot about how my life works (vibrationally) by looking out for these meaningful "coincidences" and spotting the underlying patterns.


answered 04 Aug '12, 06:17

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@Stingray, thanks...your post and the "test" link really clears this up for me. Just as you said, this experience really made be consider how I feel about this person, this venture, and my work. After consideration this morning, I realized that the venture situation has been set up (with my cooperation) in a manner that makes me feel frustrated, but rarely enthusiastic. Seems like the dynamic needs to change or I need to let the venture go...hopefully the vibrational change will take care of it!

(04 Aug '12, 14:25) lozenge123

@Stingray - Well, would you believe what happened since this last post? I sent my colleague a harsh letter, and he backed down, apologized, and changed tacts...he just thought I would "enjoy the opportunity" and felt impelled to ask. If it weren't for my memory of the previous exchange, I would have thought that this business venture just got a lot more pleasant. I also thought that maybe I "passed the test", as Bashar would say, and was out of the woods with this new vibrational change...

(04 Aug '12, 21:49) lozenge123

@Stingray - ...but nope! Within the last four hours I got two messages from former contacts offering me work with a "big" potential upside...but which I would have no joy or enthusiasm in doing! Does the Universe have a sense of humor? Whatever the case, thanks to your post, I can now laugh at all this phenomena and let it all pass by without being confused by it. It will be fun to see how long this test lasts. Thanks again so much for sharing your knowledge and experience, Stingray.

(04 Aug '12, 21:56) lozenge123

@Stingray - Another intuition which I can't help but almost feels like the old vibration "wants" me to return to it. As if it is calling out in desperation, "Wait! Come back! Don't leave me! I miss the old you!" Kind of like a jealous, desperate, dysfunctional old lover. Don't know if that sounds crazy, but it is kind of how the whole thing feels.

(04 Aug '12, 22:08) lozenge123

@lozenge123 - You are welcome. Bashar has a wonderful seminar called Brick Walls And Beliefs. A picture from it is here:


This represents the structure of a limiting belief. The central hexagon represents the core of the belief where it keeps itself alive using two main processes. Firstly, it makes you feel you have No Choice but to believe it. Secondly, it makes you feel that not believing it is a threat to your...

(05 Aug '12, 02:45) Stingray

@lozenge123 - ... Survival itself. The limiting belief further keeps itself alive through the six sub-processes represented by the outer hexagons e.g. Rationalize means that a limiting belief will come up with logical reasons why it must exist which seem entirely convincing. Once you understand that a limiting belief has these self-protection mechanisms, it becomes a bit clearer why we cling so much to beliefs that don't serve us and why others will defend their own limiting...

(05 Aug '12, 02:49) Stingray

@lozenge123 - ...beliefs, almost at any personal cost :) It's a fascinating phenomenon to observe once you understand what is going on with these metaphysical structures. So it doesn't surprise me that it seems like your limiting belief is trying to make you feel like it is calling out to you. The belief structure is fighting for its own survival, just like anyone else would if their existence was threatened. You are doing exactly the right thing in sticking to your better feeling.

(05 Aug '12, 02:54) Stingray

Fantastic Stingray....I was looking for this diagram!! Bashar calls these the "dirty little tricks" of the negative belief....and thats all they are is "tricks."

(05 Aug '12, 11:07) Eldavo

@Eldavo - You can get the full diagram from the handouts section of the Bashar website:

(05 Aug '12, 12:09) Stingray

@Stingray - Thank you...this is amazing. It as just as you say. One of the offers I previously mentioned had a huge reward attached to it...very tempting. But it would have put me right back in the same old place. I would be very interested to learn more about that picture...for instance, what Project and Reject mean? I'll try to look up this seminar. Thanks again for's so helpful!

(05 Aug '12, 12:42) lozenge123

@lozenge123 - These are my notes of what Bashar said about those outer "tricks" in the seminar...

RATIONALIZE - Why it is logical to be where you are

REWARD - Positive reinforcement of the negative belief

PARANOIA - You will not believe those who are trying to help

PROJECT - Projection of the "light" to appear "dark"

REJECT - Rejection of new ideas

JUSTIFY - Justify where you are

The negative belief will use one or more of these methods to keep you locked into it

(05 Aug '12, 14:15) Stingray

@lozenge123 - Bashar says that identifying the structure weakens the structure because it shows the negative belief to be actually illogical and nonsensical...once you can see what it is up to. Once you get your power back from identifying the structure, you then start to see the negative belief as simply another choice and now you are in a position to choose a more positive belief instead. Even a tiny crack in the negative belief structure will let you see the doorway that leads to "light".

(05 Aug '12, 14:21) Stingray

I thourally enjoyed this. I also used to think the universe is a joker till I discovered I was stronger and by sticking to my new beliefs.

(05 Aug '12, 14:51) Paulina 1

@Stingray - Thanks so much for this extra information...this stuff is like gold! It's interesting that the limiting belief almost acts like a separate living entity, and apparently has manifestation power (I assume that is where these "offers" came from...which are still coming, by the way :) ). In the past when this happened, I would think that this was the "Universe" or God messing with me, or trying to send me a message to go back to the old way of being, which was confusing to no end.

(06 Aug '12, 11:10) lozenge123

@Stingray - One last question about this subject (if you don't mind). For all my life, I have pursued ambitions which would be considered lofty for many people. I always knew intellectually that they were achievable, but was unsure about which route to take. The last five years (before I found this site a few moths ago), I tried manifesting with mixed results. Could it be that this limiting belief (which I didn't even realize I had) could have been interfering with my manifesting process?

(06 Aug '12, 11:23) lozenge123

@lozenge123 - It could be the limiting belief, or it could also be that you want to prolong the experience of getting to your destination. From our physical perspective, we often want our "stuff" ASAP but from our broader perspectives, we might want particular experiences along the way: . Bashar refers to these experiences as themes: . Either way, still the same answer...just enjoy life in the moment.

(06 Aug '12, 14:07) Stingray

@lozenge123 - As an example, I could have saved myself at least 20 years of looking for answers if I had been more open-minded about channeling when younger. But I was convinced within myself that it was just fraud and scam so I would not consider any information that came that way. As a result of the next 20+ years of going around in a big circle to come back where I started, I participated in a vast number of experiences that I would never have had if all the knowledge had just fallen...

(06 Aug '12, 14:10) Stingray

@lozenge123 - ...into my lap right at the start. Much of the knowledge I share on IQ comes from those experiences. Then back in the mid-90s, suddenly I found myself accepting the idea of channeling and I started looking back again at all the ideas I had previously rejected and realized the value of them...and here I am today :) So what changed within me that made me change my attitude? I can't say for sure but it feels like a part of me wanted the experience of that search. And...

(06 Aug '12, 14:14) Stingray

@lozenge123 - ...when that inner desire for that experience seemed to be satisfied, my cynicism seemed to magically clear up and I found what I was looking for. Something to think about perhaps? :)

(06 Aug '12, 14:17) Stingray

@Stingray - Yes, a lot to think about! :) Mulling over the last decade, I definitely had a number of valuable experiences that might not have happened if "success" had come early. (And I, too, assumed channeling was a fraud until recently...though I am still not 100% sure, the fact that all of this Abraham/Bashar stuff works so well and rings so true has made me very open to the idea). Thanks very much for sharing your knowledge, stories, and the new links...I am checking them out now.

(06 Aug '12, 22:42) lozenge123

@Stingray - What a great attitude toward taking the long way home. That is a great example for me to follow when I sometimes feel regret creeping up on me. Thanks. :)

(06 Aug '12, 22:53) Grace
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As Sir Paul McCartney so eloquently said, "...Love is such an easy game to play".

Allowing is a hard discipline for some of us.

To actually allow your colleague's point of view, without judgement, to co-exist in contrast to your own desires requires you to have no resistance to What-Is. That is an important part of Allowing.

One of the difficulties we often have with LOA is that we often fail to acknowledge that there may be contrasting points of view, which can be equally valid. How do we cope with this phenomena?

We have no justification for invalidating anothers desires. But when we do invalidate another, our resistance can equal "Clatter".

To be clear: You certainly are not required to do that for which you have no affinity.

However, could there be some way you could have soothed the fear of your colleague? Without doing it their way?

How would you know if what you believe regarding this situation were NOT true?

Static on the line, "clatter" and/or any other general dis-comfort, perhaps, implies some resistance on your part. Or a mis-understanding?

Did you agree, at some time in the past, to do whatever was possible to help get this deal done?

Do you have a hidden desire or need to control or manipulate those you percieve to have a desire or need to control or manipulate?

Unselfish Love doesn't mean you have to be someone elses door mat - but, it may mean that you may have to get out of your own "comfort zone" in order to become truly free.

"...Love is such an easy game to play". If we actually can "Allow" What-Is.

Bottom line? It was your "dream". Only you know the answers. Or the questions.

This was simply composed, In Love, - jogjr


answered 05 Aug '12, 01:34

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@jogjr - Thanks for your response. Please don't take this the wrong way, I know that you personally mean well, but a few points you bring up actually feel to me like my old vibration working through you, trying to get me to "come back." If I made any mistakes with regard to this venture, they were vibrational mistakes. I don't need to sooth that guy...been doing it for a year, it was part of the problem. If I made any "agreements" in the past to do anything, to be blunt, it was made by a...

(05 Aug '12, 12:12) lozenge123

...frustrated vibrational self that I have moved on from. I can no longer honor such agreements as you mention. Whatever that results in, so be it. The chips can fall where they may. I would rather be happy, passionate, and enthusiastic about my life. I won't go back. I like being feels so much better. All the best to you. Thank you for giving me another chance to confront my old vibration. :)

(05 Aug '12, 12:26) lozenge123
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