Quoting our @Stingray:

"...Abraham have implied a number of times - it's there if you listen closely - that it is possible to live indefinitely within the same physical body if you can manage to do two things...

Launch a constant stream of new desires

Consciously release resistance

The combination of those two factors will draw an on-going stream of life energy through you forever energizing you and keep you youthful." (Taken from his terrific explanation on how it is possible to live indefinitely here.)

That makes sense to me, so I believe that it's possible to consciously take steps to live longer, but my question is, why are so many of us doing it unconsciously, in many parts of the world?

I understand about better nutrition, living conditions, and healthcare (for some), but my question is in regards to Law of Attraction specifically, and our collective spiritual evolution on this planet in general.

Why is this happening now, and how?

I don't think I have ever heard anything that explains this before, and would appreciate if you would share what you know about it, thank you.



asked 05 Feb '14, 22:16

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edited 05 Feb '14, 22:18


Nice question @Grace. I've been thinking about this the past few month. But I have no answer to it. Maybe people are launching so many desires these days because there is so much to observe and desire. So it keeps them alive longer. My other theory is chocolate. It tastes so good, so why croak? :) However, chocolate has been around since the Mayan and Aztec civilization. So it's definitely a questionable theory :).

(06 Feb '14, 07:31) releaser99

@Grace this is one of the most important achievements for humanity to achieve. The S.O.S. believes that immortality is important to our evolution as humanity. Once we achieve biological immortality nothing is impossible because we have literally infinity to achieve everything. Exploring outer space even beyond our own galaxy, no problem if we are immortal.

(06 Feb '14, 09:08) Wade Casaldi

@releaser99 - Thanks, it's fun to think about, isn't it? I like the chocolate theory, personally, but have a sense there is something more that I'm not seeing yet... ;)

(07 Feb '14, 21:28) Grace
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The 9D Pleiadians say that this period of vibrational change is unusual in the sense that the amount of vibrational change we have gone through (and are going through) would normally mean a "death cycle" for those going through it i.e. start a fresh incarnation from a new "higher" vibrational place.

But, they say, many of us going through this particular transitional period have adopted a slightly different approach in that we are choosing instead to have a "pre-vibrational-change blueprint" for our physical selves and a "post-vibrational-change blueprint" for our physical selves, instead of having that usual intervening death cycle to reset everything.

So, if I'm understanding them correctly, it is almost as though we are living a new life as a new person but with (from our perspective) the same physical body. And, a lot of the issues that people might be having with their lives right now (in 2014) might be due to difficulties people are having with adjusting to that new "blueprint" for self.

This would be what they mean when they are referring to the "new operating system" (as in computer operating system) in the video below.


This might possibly be what you are trying to get at with your question.


answered 08 Feb '14, 10:43

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@Stingray - Thank you so much, and sorry it took me so long to see this answer. It makes so much sense, I like it a lot. Living a new life as a new person speaks of a feeling very familiar to me. Also, you have reminded me that if it were not for the recent life-changing "clattering" experience I had, the life I was living most certainly would have killed me, and sooner rather than later. This lends even more credence to the idea in your answer, in my view...

(16 Feb '14, 17:29) Grace

...I'm so glad I had learned here from you what clattering is, so I recognized what was happening, and I did not fight against the change. Thank you again. :)

(16 Feb '14, 17:30) Grace

That makes sense to me, so I believe that it's possible to consciously take steps to live longer, but my question is, why are so many of us doing it unconsciously, in many parts of the world?

I understand about better nutrition, living conditions, and healthcare (for some), but my question is in regards to Law of Attraction specifically, and our collective spiritual evolution on this planet in general.

Why is this happening now, and how?

Although Stingray is a tough act to follow, I'd like to put down some thoughts about this.

First of all, if one looks at recorded lifespans throughout various points in history, it becomes evident that the human lifespan has been fluctuating a great deal for at least several thousand years.

The earliest records, from the Old Testament, indicate that it was no big deal for humans to live hundreds of years, and some lived close to a thousand. Interestingly, the author(s) of the Old Testament do not seem to correlate lifespan to any moralistic notions; in fact, these early people were perhaps deemed the most immoral, and were largely wiped out by the Deluge. Rather, it seems that the Old Testament simply reports these lifespans as recorded fact.

We have other records from ancient history, such as the following:

The longevity ascribed to many of the Irish Saints is another remarkable circumstance. We read in the Annals of the Four Masters, that Saint Sincheall [Senel, the Ancient God] lived to the age of 330 years - St. Mochta lived to the age of 300 years - St. Dairerca to the age of 180 years....St. Liban, also lived to the age of at least 470 years - 404 years was the length of Saint Ibhar's life. This name, Ibhar, I believe to be a corruption of Elbar, Son of God. The Irish word BAR, a son, has the same signification in the Irish and Hebrew languages. Other authorities inform us that St. Molaise (Molach) lived 160 years - St. Fechin 180 years. St. Ciaran lived to the age of 300 years. St. Brendan also, having lived to the age of 300 years... - The Towers and Temples of Ancient Ireland (1867, Dublin)

The list is so long that we could write an entire book, or at least a very lengthy article, cataloging such accounts.

By the Middle Ages, at least in Europe, the average lifespan seems to have dropped to one's late 40s, so that even among royalty, a man or woman who lived into his or her fifties was regarded as very old; one who lived to their sixties was regarded as ancient.

Examining the genealogy of the American colonies from about 1630-1750, we find that the average lifespan has rocketed significantly--a fact often overlooked by historians, since the high level of violence and disease has "skewed" general averages to a lower number. However, if they survived these obvious physical threats, the average 17th century New Englander typically lived between 80 and 105. Arguably, these people lived in far more primitive conditions than those of either Renaissance Europe or the Victorian era...with access to no medicine or health care of any kind.

By the nineteenth century, the lifespan has plummeted again, and now sixty is considered a ripe old age. Even the most famous people, with access to the best food and medical assistance, almost never live past their early seventies.

Throughout the 20th century, lifespan is again on the steady rise, something that the vast majority of people attribute to modern technology and healthcare. (Science declares the current "limit" of the human lifespan to be 120 years, however, I have personally known someone who lived to be 123.)

So what, really, is to account for this fluctuation?

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Above: Daniel Frederick Bakeman, veteran of the American War of Independence, at age 109

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Above: Florence Owens Thompson in 1936, at age 32

If we accept the metaphysical principle that our realities are an exact mirror of our beliefs (courtesy of Abraham, Bashar, Stingray, etc..), then what we are observing here appears to be a sort of "belief feedback loop" in the dominant collective consciousness.

In other words, just as with religious and scientific views, etc., the vast majority of the populace look to each other--to their own collective belief systems--to determine their own individual beliefs. The average person expects (believes) he will live to the "proper" age of his current era--to do otherwise would either be too fantastic, or outright immoral. Or, in many cases, they have a sort of guilt associated with longevity, tied into the notion of "leaving others behind."

We can see this demonstrated in countless individual cases, of which I will post only one here:

I knew Thompson Hudson personally...He said that he was intrigued by my optimism...He said, however, that he would not like to prolong a life like this. Evidently he did not fully realize conditions could be corrected...Negatively, Hudson declared, "The good old-fashioned thee score and ten is good enough for me." It was later reported to me that Hudson died on his seventieth birthday. - My Personal Recollections of Thomas Troward, by Harry Gaze. Originally published in 1958.

I believe that there is another way to look at this, simply beyond the understanding that "our beliefs create our reality."

As had been stated by many spiritual (and scientific) thinkers from the past (and future), there really is, empirically speaking, no such thing as linear time. Everything we experience, all existence, is now; as Bashar says, you can never exist in "then."

So, where does this thing called time, and hence aging, come from? I believe the answer is embedded in the following passage by Adronis:

It is the idea of the continuity of your own consciousness that gives you the idea of aging. The idea that time and space itself is an invention...So the continuity of your consciousness itself is giving the illusion that you are progressing day to day, to day, to day, to day...and that your body itself created as that human template follows the continuity of consciousness to develop ages. Now, understand that all programs, all agreements...there are those that can be bent. So the idea is that, through the consciousness, collective of humanity, there are people, there are individuals who can "trick the loopholes" of the collective consciousness; to where they can age through a much longer lifespan than many others. - Insights with Adronis, p. 20

Consciousness itself creates time, and thus consciousness itself creates aging.

How we can play around with time and aging on our own is a much larger topic, and one that has already been touched upon in this thread.


answered 19 Mar '14, 15:09

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edited 05 May '14, 15:05


@lozenge123 - Thank you for this wonderful answer. You bring so much into the conversation, and make it so much more interesting than my limited view originally put forth. I appreciate you. I like "Consciousness itself creates time, and thus consciousness itself creates aging." :) Excellent.

(05 May '14, 02:48) Grace

@Grace - Thanks and you are always welcome.

(05 May '14, 15:00) lozenge123
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