Are the crystals (generic minerals) and water living or not?

I don't refer to the animism. If they are living, how can be proved this? If they are not living, how can be explained their memory and intelligence?

asked 18 Jan '10, 05:11

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edited 18 Jan '10, 06:49

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I corrected your spelling of "crystals"..I like to tell people why I edit things...Blessings, Jai

(18 Jan '10, 06:07) Jaianniah
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People can see what you edited by looking at the edit history, and you can also put your reasons there - otherwise I think it just clutters up the area below the question with non-relevant comments like this one :)

(18 Jan '10, 07:18) Stingray
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Define 'living or not'.

(23 Sep '12, 19:32) Fairy Princess
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If you look into wave theory, the only difference between us and a crystal is a matter of vibration :)

(07 Mar '22, 13:39) ele
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it's as angels asking, 'if human beings are actually spiritual'

(29 Mar '22, 07:13) fred
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...or did I just dream I was a butterfly :))

(31 Mar '22, 15:12) ele
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Hi Gleam, I would tend to believe that the crystals (generic minerals) and water are living.

As a basic statement, isn't all that exists energy (going to its sub-atomic level)? So, what would constitute life?

As it has been stated by Vesuvius, life does have its properties for it to be considered life by our (mans) definition (on this plane).

LeeAnn also brought out an interesting point. Dr. Masuru Emoto claims that water does absorb energy.

Water (one form of energy) absorbs another form of energy (what ever it is. In Dr. Emoto's experiments, he used spoken words and written words to affect the water) thus causing it to react in a particular way. Basically he concluded that water does absorb energy.

I see it more as energy affecting energy. The spoken words affected the water, the written word affected the water.

As I thought about this, I understood the spoken word (vibrations) could affect the water but how does the written word affect it. "It doesn't make sense" to me, yet I saw the effects that written words (a form of energy) have on water (another form of energy).

Side note: If something does not make sense to our understanding (wherever level we are at intellectually), does it necessarily mean, "it's impossible", or "it can't be", or "it's too far fetched", "what a vivid imagination you have", or 'I've never heard anything so ridiculous (in my life)", or "I'll believe it when I see It", or "I've seen it but I still don't believe it", or whatever words you would like to put to what you just saw or heard but cannot wrap your head around that idea or thought.

When we speak of Abraham, Seth, etc. are they not "living" beings. Are they not another form of energy. Most on this site will say yes. Now try to convince people in general about what you know about them. Then again try to convince people about their existance. You will get responses as I mentioned above and you will be considered 'crazy', 'nuts', 'on drugs' etc.

Abraham (one form of energy) affects man (another form of energy). Remember, that these two different living entities are on two different planes.

So we have another form of energy (Abraham) that is 'living' yet does not fall under Vesuvius' (or man's) definition of life.

A written word is another form of energy. I do not know what plane it is on, yet the water experiment somehow shows that a written word can affect it (i.e. water). Just as Abraham is alive in one plane so can this written word be alive on another plane.

Having said this, could this creation be living? Can a stone be living? With the definition we have of what life is supposed to be, the answer would have to be an emphatic no.

Knowing that other energy could be alive (example: Abraham) in a different state and plane, why would we not say that a stone or creation is alive?

Consider these verses:

Romans 8:22 For we know that the whole creation groaneth and travaileth in pain together until now.

Definition: Groan, n. A deep mournful sound, uttered in pain, sorrow or anguish. 1. Any low, rumbling sound; as the groans of roaring wind.

Definition: Travail: 1. To labor with pain; to toil.

Luke 19:40 And he answered and said unto them, I tell you that, if these should hold their peace, the stones would immediately cry out.

Did Jesus know something we don't? For him to say the stones would cry out, he must know of a different life plane that the stones might come from that we have no idea of.

Science hasn't reached this point yet.

Life comes in different states and planes of existence. Because one has never heard of it, it does not erase the fact of its existence. Again, the example of Abraham. Many do not believe of his existence. Would this unbelief on peoples part negate or make him cease to exist? I don't think so. If one chooses not to believe in Abraham, it's his choice. He is the one missing out. The same argument goes for belief in God, Satan or whatever.

In conclusion, I would say yes, crystals (generic minerals), metals and water are living

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If some of you readers have never seen Dr. Masuru Emoto's experiments, do yourself a favor and go check it out. It is absolutely amazing.

http://www.life-enthusiast.com/twilight/research_emoto.htm

Thanks to flowingwater for the link.

Once you have seen and understood what he did, I want you to think about something.

If words can affect water the way it does, what happens to us (man being some 85% water) when we have t-shirts on with writing on it. Does that affect us?

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answered 27 Mar '10, 02:42

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yes Frank I have a friend that has a refrigerator full of magnets that say insulting things to be funny, the guy puts himself down he does not believe in him self he reflects it on his refrigerator. I have tried to tell him before he should put encouraging and uplifting quotes on there to give him good subconscious programing.

(27 Mar '10, 06:26) Wade Casaldi

Wade you're absolutely right. Have your friend go to Dr. Emoto's site and have him check it out for himself. It would be the best and only thing you can do for him. Once he know the info,it's up to him to react to what he has learned. A friend of a friend of mine had put the Zoso symbol on his freezer. Some 3' x 5'. About 24-48 hours later, all the food had rotted/spoiled. No one could have figured out why. This material, I believe, should be seriously studied and considered.

(27 Mar '10, 21:53) Frank 1

@Frank 1 Couldn't agree more about the t-shirt thing - years ago went to a edgy store in Manchester and the t-shirts on sale all had slogans like "WILL F**K FOR COKE" - er, not a good idea on any level. I couldn't get out of there fast enough, the vibrations were making me feel terrible.

(24 Sep '12, 04:01) Catherine
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I am a Certified Crystal healer and a Crystal Reiki Master, and use crystals at times when I am doing a healing. I know it is very hard for people to believe that crystals can affect the human body, but they can...

The human body is encapsulated with bio-electrical energy. Crystals have their own energy based upon the structure of the crystal itself. They help healing and balancing because they can interfere with this flow of energy, and correct it if necessary, as long as the intent is within the healer.

Crystals, by definition, are not alive. They do not reproduce. They do not breathe, and do not need to eat, or consume energy to survive. There are more criteria for life- viruses are barely alive- they cannot reproduce without the help of another organism and its DNA. Crystals cannot even do that.

What they can do is help heal the chakras in the body, and to get the energy centers balanced, exactly like acupuncturists use needles. The acupuncturist's needles are not alive! Yet, the can and do heal.

I hope this helps!

Love, Jai

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answered 18 Jan '10, 06:21

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edited 18 Jan '10, 06:57

I'm sure most of you have heard of the book "The Hidden Messages in Water" by Dr. Masuru Emoto. He claims that water does absorb energy. I think it's the same with crystals, that they absorb some energy but are not living, by our definition.

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answered 18 Jan '10, 22:08

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Yes they are living. The water even response to the words that are recited over it. The crystals absorb energies and gives out positive energies to us the humans.I will add more to this answer later on. The follow are links:

http://www.life-enthusiast.com/twilight/research_emoto.htm

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answered 18 Jan '10, 06:00

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Thanks for the Dr. Emoto's link flowingwater.

(27 Mar '10, 04:35) Frank 1
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yes @flowingwater I very much enjoy what you are saying ... it fits in nicely with my experiences of the written word ... a clearly written word "love" or "hate" for example emits the vibrational signature of what it signifies, it emits the unique identifying pattern by which it can be recognized. Here's an article you may find interesting

https://www.life-enthusiast.com/articles/dr-emoto-interview/

(15 Feb '22, 06:51) jaz

The word life has a fairly specific meaning. I'm inclined to side with Jaianniah on this one...Water and crystals are not alive.

Specifically, life has the following characteristics:

  1. Homeostasis: Regulation of the internal environment to maintain a constant state; for example, electrolyte concentration or sweating to reduce temperature.

  2. Organization: Being structurally composed of one or more cells, which are the basic units of life.

  3. Metabolism: Transformation of energy by converting chemicals and energy into cellular components and decomposing organic matter. Living things require energy to maintain internal organization and to produce the other phenomena associated with life.

  4. Growth: A growing organism increases in size in all of its parts, rather than simply accumulating matter.

  5. Adaptation: The ability to change over a period of time in response to the environment. This ability is fundamental to the process of evolution and is determined by the organism's heredity as well as the composition of metabolized substances, and external factors present.

  6. Response to stimuli: A response can take many forms, from the contraction of a unicellular organism to external chemicals, to complex reactions involving all the senses of multicellular organisms. A response is often expressed by motion, for example, the leaves of a plant turning toward the sun.

  7. Reproduction: The ability to produce new individual organisms, either asexually from a single parent organism, or sexually from two parent organisms.

It should be apparent that water and crystals have none of these characteristics.

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answered 18 Jan '10, 06:59

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Thank you the ansver. I want to add, as an important characteristic the capacity of self development, rising their abilities of reacting, expanding the old functions and, along the time, building else new organs. For ex.: the evolution : aquatic beings -> amphibians -> terrestrial (land) beings.

(19 Jan '10, 12:43) Gleam
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