Today something very interesting happened to me. Two contrary beliefs of mine were like fighting for survival if they were saying "there can only be one sheriff in town". This happened just in the matter of minutes.

I work on a very painful jealousy issue of mine for a few weeks now. I did many focus blocks, found many core beliefs that i was not even slightly aware of before learning these tools and i also found massive relief.

I was very sure i got this issue out of my way and i can go on without beeing jealous ever again now. Also i successfully proved that this is true in many occasions. But today something very strange happened. My girlfriend and i were eating dinner at a restaurant and her ex boyfriend called (again) to win her back. Before then i was like the happiest person alive (in the vortex).

Then suddenly i was ripped out of the vortex and felt so much jealousy that i thought i would get a heart attack. It was the old jealousy feeling but just 100 times more painful.

I couldn't do anything in this moment. As she talked with him i just tried to analyze what was going on. But the feeling was too painful to even think about it in a appropriate way. So i did nothing. Then after 1-2 minutes doing nothing i felt extremely confident and happy again such as before. As if that was someone else that felt intensive pain a minute ago. I tested if this feeling would come back and imagined the ex boyfriend calling again and again. But nothing happened and i was like "this is so ridiculous to feel jealous about such an event..." and smiled joyfully.

So this vortex feeling remained and i felt wonderful and talked with my girlfriend about something unrelated. A few minutes later this jealousy feeling again came back with the same intensity. In this moment i was just paralyzed. My girlfriend asked "are you ok?". Then again in the very next moment i felt extremely joyfull and this fantastic vortex feeling so i said "Yes, i'm fine. Just felt jealous for a second but it's ok now. I feel fantastic. But don't ask me about the reason behind it. I don't know." This feeling went on and i still feel wonderful. But what the hell was going on there?

Nothing happened on the outside that could have changed my thoughts so drastically. It was like 2 beliefs were fighting against each other with many rounds such as in a professionel boxing match. And i guess my new belief survived for now.

What was very interesting is that i felt the worst emotion and in the other moment the best one on abraham's emotional guidance scale. And i always thought that this kind of experience is not possible and that you have to climb up the emotional ladder.

Can you relate to this strange event?

asked 27 Nov '12, 18:31

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Believe what you want, but ultimately anything you believe in will become your limitation. Just like this "And i always thought that this kind of experience is not possible and that you have to climb up the emotional ladder."...Or believe nothing.

And as for your experience. It's an example of why it is so hard sometimes for many people to overcome their beliefs. Beliefs are ideas, they can be left alone and separate from concept of who you are. Like a chewing gum, chew it and spit it out.

(28 Nov '12, 03:18) CalonLan

@CalonLan Yes you are right and i absolutely agree. Someone said (not sure but i think it was Eben Pagan)

"Don’t believe anything too much because there will always come a time when it’s not true."

And this was very often true in my life.

(28 Nov '12, 18:30) releaser99

@releaser99 I really like that quote- thanks for sharing :)

(04 Dec '12, 13:04) LapisLazuli
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As well as Bashar's Echo (or Test) idea, as mentioned by @MoonWillow, it is also worth considering that if you have been deliberately shifting your vibrational setpoint then your fixed emotional range has also shifted.

This means that thoughts that might have previously felt comfortable to you can now feel extremely distressing, almost unbearable at times.

So it is actually quite possible for you to be experiencing total joy in one moment and then come "crashing down" because of a previous habitual thought being reactivated - and now feeling much more painful than before.

It's actually a positive sign that vibrational change has occurred within you. If nothing had changed, you wouldn't feel the pain of your usual habitual thought on the subject. I can certainly remember times in the past where I've had this swinging back and forth between extreme emotions while I was first dealing with long-entrenched bad-feeling emotions.

Nothing to worry about though. As you release those previous thought habits, the instability in emotion will naturally vanish too.

A useful tip to remember is that emotions always come in response to thoughts so if you suddenly find a negative emotion triggered within you, stop at that very moment and try and think back a few moments to what thought you were just thinking.

That negative emotion will be highlighting directly the painful thought. Sometimes it can be surprising to realize that the painful thought that has been identified by that emotion has become so habitual to you that you didn't even realize that you were thinking it.

Used in that sense, the ability to feel negative emotion clearly is one of the most useful tools we, as humans, have at our disposal.

If one embraces negative emotion and the message it contains (rather like the approach used in the MC2 method you've previously mentioned) then there is valuable information in there.

And that sensitivity to emotion can be enhanced considerably through the proper use of meditation.


answered 28 Nov '12, 04:36

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"stop at that very moment" kind of a "Oh wait a just a second" moment

(28 Nov '12, 05:23) ursixx

simply.."stop.,drop n roll..", stop the negative thinking.., drop it there n roll towards positive thghts again.. simple.. :)))

(28 Nov '12, 10:40) supergirl

@Stingray You definitely helped me understanding my nightmares with the concept of the emotional range. Fortunately they disappeared. I sleep as peaceful as a little baby now. Couldn't realize that this alternating belief situation could be related to the same concept. Thank you.

(28 Nov '12, 18:27) releaser99

@Stingray- Thanks for the reminder. This happens to me occasionally where I'm in a high vibration for days an then old habitual thought pattern emerges and it can be very uncomfortable. It's good to know this is actually a sign of progress. Thank you:)

(02 Dec '12, 05:39) Satori

@Satori - Abraham have described on occasion how a tiny bit of resistance can go a long, long way when you're used to flowing energy quickly. And they seem to love pointing out when this happens in Esther's life and she has a few days of emotional turmoil from something relatively insignificant :) I think it's just the price you have to pay for the thrill of driving fast doesn't have the luxury of "sloppy" thinking any more :)

(02 Dec '12, 09:41) Stingray

@Stingray- lol. That is totally spot on. This is what's happening to me on occasion now. Funny, I always thought it would be the other way round, "nothing would phase me". As you say, no more sloppy thinking:)

(03 Dec '12, 13:35) Satori

@Satori - Indeed :) And I think it goes even further than that. I've been feeling a considerable "acceleration" in general vibrational energies during 2012, especially over the past several months. It's been feeling more and more to me like it's no longer enough to just to drift along in a complacent manner regarding metaphysical knowledge and just dip into it from time to time. It's feeling like one has to seriously apply this stuff to avoid being "washed away" by the vibrational tide :)

(04 Dec '12, 10:40) Stingray

@Satori - And that feeling was confirmed for me in Wendy Kennedy's November newsletter (She channels the 9D Pleiadians)... "As we near the end of 2012 things are definitely intensifying. One message that is continually repeated by the guides is that it is time to put into practice what we already know. That means daily, even hourly, attention and focus to our vibration at the mental, emotional, and physical levels."

(04 Dec '12, 10:42) Stingray

@Stingray what do you think will happen to the people "washed away" by this vibrational tide then?

(04 Dec '12, 11:33) kakaboo

@kakaboo - I guess they run the risk of getting sea-sick from the rough waters :) Faster vibrations mean the highs feel higher and the lows feel lower. As Charles Dickens once prophetically wrote: "It was the best of times, it was the worst of times". But, at least according to the 9D Pleiadians (and others), we've all collectively done enough "homework" to avoid the worst of the worst:

(04 Dec '12, 12:25) Stingray

@Stingray - It is a relief to hear actually as this has definitely been the case for me lately. That Wendy Kennedy link is great, thanks :)

(05 Dec '12, 13:04) Satori

@Stingray - I am very glad you posted this, because I have noticed a huge spike in all sorts of synchronicities lately, having nothing to do with any desires that I am conscious of, and I was wondering about something like what you describe. For instance, yesterday I remember thinking about a particular author for only about 30 seconds or so, and today, two major coincidences/synchronicities related to him...

(05 Dec '12, 16:35) lozenge123

@Stingray - Also, I seem to be noticing LOA acting more swiftly than ever...emotional states seem to bring on physical manifestations at an unbelievable speed. I'm sure part of it is that I'm more aware now...but this stuff in recent months seems off the charts compared to what I have previously experienced. Is this the sort of thing you're talking about (or that the Pleiadians seem to be talking about)?

(05 Dec '12, 16:37) lozenge123

@lozenge123 - Yes, manifestations and vibrational matches coming more quickly is all tied into this quickening. As the vibrations move faster, we also experience less of the illusion of time because we are aligning more with a native state where linear time doesn't has never existed actually except to our physical perspectives. Over the past couple of years especially, I've also noticed that holding a "state of being" is becoming far important as a paradigm than trying to...

(06 Dec '12, 13:04) Stingray

@lozenge123 - ..."create" or "visualize" the details of exactly what you want. Law of Attraction as a brute force bully-your-manifestation-into-place philosophy seems to be giving way to more subtle and refined ideas.

(06 Dec '12, 13:14) Stingray

@Stingray - Thanks for all the info. So really "maintaining a state of being" is what it's all about right now, in terms of manifesting positive conditions...I think that's what I'm getting from your post. (I also like your use of the term "quickening." Can "there be only one?" ;)

(07 Dec '12, 00:48) lozenge123

@lozenge123 - Am still sharpening up the broadsword and the dodgy French accent ;) Yes, "state of being" seems ever more key. As a concrete example, Manifesting Box is probably more this-is-what-I-want style while the Ultimate Daily Planner is probably more of a relax-and-let-it-sort-itself-out Gangnam Style :)

(07 Dec '12, 04:23) Stingray

@Stingray Oh yes, the Ultimate Daily Planner has very much Gangnam Style and also great sex appeal indeed :). i will try it out:)

(07 Dec '12, 08:01) releaser99

@Stingray - Thanks again for the info. I hadn't done the daily planner yet, but after graduating to Manifesting Experiment #4, and based on your comments here, I think I'll give it a go.

(07 Dec '12, 11:22) lozenge123
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@releaser9 - I think what you're experiencing is an echo, see Satori's answer


answered 27 Nov '12, 20:13

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Mmh, i always thought bashar's concept of the echo is the actual event (manifestation) that is happening in your life, not your reaction to it. So in my story it would be the ex boyfriend calling. But you could be right. Thanks for pointing out @MoonWillow

(27 Nov '12, 21:13) releaser99

good call @moonwillow ^5

(28 Nov '12, 04:28) ursixx

I'd like to highlight what Stingray has said about our thoughts:

A useful tip to remember is that emotions always come in response to thoughts so if you suddenly find a negative emotion triggered within you, stop at that very moment and try and think back a few moments to what thought you were just thinking.

That negative emotion will be highlighting directly the painful thought. Sometimes it can be surprising to realize that the painful thought that has been identified by that emotion has become so habitual to you that you didn't even realize that you were thinking it.

This type of "Oh, Wait a moment" pause (as @ursixx remarked) can make or break whether we change permanently or not...Sometimes, if we can catch the exact and precise thought itself, we can really do something towards changing our thinking.

Using your example, perhaps you were swinging from high to low to high because deep inside you was this thought: I do not deserve to be with this gal... It is little "doubters", as I call them, that really trip us up. Wade and I have finally moved into a home of our own, and I have vacillated between the extreme high of thinking, "Wow! This is incredible! Isn't God good!" to the extreme low of thinking, "I do NOT deserve this man, this home, or these things; I am unworthy." I have caught that little doubter many times, and stomp on it like a bug when it pops up!

If you can catch the exact thought itself, you will find yourself on the brink of a whole new way of life!




answered 28 Nov '12, 07:02

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@Jaianniah Thank you for the tip and sharing your experience. Yes, this is exactly the point. I felt unworthy very often in life and i didn't even know it. Jealousy is the little brother of unworthiness. The tools on this site helped me a lot and i am very grateful about it.

(28 Nov '12, 18:22) releaser99

@releaser99, I am struggling with this. I know its not the point, and no one else has brought it up, but I care, so I just have to say it.... If I were having dinner in a restaurant with my boyfriend, I would never take a call from an ex (again?). Never. Especially not if I knew he was trying to get me back. I would mention it to you, discuss it with you, and perhaps I would call him back at another time to try to help him get over our past relationship. I don't want to contribute to the problem, believe me, that is not my intention. I just wonder - if this is a common occurance, is the struggle you are facing more with self-worth than with jealousy? I guess I'm going to be very unpopular, but given the story as you have presentd it, and knowing you slightly from your posts here, my honest opinion is that you deserve better.

Of course I have no idea of the circumstances, I know I may be totally wrong, and I'm going to catch it from the wiser folks here, but to me, this seems disrespectful, and it seems little wonder you have a difficult time. I'm sorry. Please feel free to tell me off. Now I'm going to go reread all of the answers to my question about how to stop judging, and try to be a better person.


answered 28 Nov '12, 10:32

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@Grace Thank you. No you are not making yourself unpopular :). i really appreciate that you took your time and are making an attempt to help me. He always calls her and is very desperate. She wants to help him. Although imo its a waste of time, i don't want to forbid it if she really wants to. I also talk with my ex girlfriend from time to time. We are still good friends and my girlfriend isn't jealous about it. So i see it as my personal problem when i react in such a way...

(28 Nov '12, 18:05) releaser99

Another thing is i am a person who loves his own freedom. It is the most important thing for me in life. By this i mean freedom in job, freedom in relationships etc. But imo it all begins with emotional freedom within me. So i want to be become a person who doesn't care about circumstances and can be happy without beeing dependent on someones behaviour. Even if she would cheat on me i want to be able to say "I don't care. Now my life goes on without her." and be happy. So this freedom is what...

(28 Nov '12, 18:07) releaser99

...i want to feel ALWAYS within me no matter what the circumstances are. But i don't want to just say shallow words regarding this. I want to really mean it and feel the freedom. Fortunately i learned a lot here on this site and now i am very hopeful about my goal. I hope you can now understand why i want to work on this jealousy issue and not on her. It's really nice to have you here on IQ and i'm interested in your point of view. Thank you for caring.

(28 Nov '12, 18:11) releaser99

@releaser99 - Of course you are right. Being free of those feelings is the most important thing, regardless of the circumstances. I never want to feel like that, either. I applaud you, your goal is an excellent one. I will remember, and think of you and this thread if ever I am bitten by a jealousy bug... :)

(28 Nov '12, 18:44) Grace
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you add some over flow from the that moment many piece of the puzzle where passing by. you probably add a doubt about your relationship with your girl friend because her ex boyfriend called to get her back. you have view it as a risk to your relationship. if the feeling came back it can be a fee things 1:it is not totally solved in you and for you. 2:you are not trusting her to tell you the truth or not change her mind or not playing around. 3: there is something that you are not aware about that bothers you,inside or outside. learn the truth and it will set you let there be light,Be the light that you can Be, experience and enjoy.


answered 02 Dec '12, 12:46

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thanks for your answer.

(02 Dec '12, 15:48) releaser99

no problem you are welcome.

(02 Dec '12, 16:53) white tiger

maybe we receive perceptions from
sensory feelings, instinct, intuition
all sent to the processing mind

on what does your intellect rule out,
is it well recognized as a tool
and objectively utilized

alternatively evaluating


answered 04 Dec '12, 19:35

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